Dule_smor Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 TEPCO placa odstetu svim porodicama u okolini Fukushime http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13090304 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 posle jucerasnjeg zemljotresa problem i u najvecoj nuklearnoj elektrani na svetu...kashiwazaki kariwa ima 7 reaktora ukupne snage preko 8.000 megawata i vec je bila ostecena u zemljotresu 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Pošto si rekao najveća, morao sam da pogledam na netu kako izgleda, pa u skladu sa tim pitanje: http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/news/2004/kasiwa.jpg zar ne treba nuklearka negde da ima one "dimnjake" ili je to neka "stara tehnologija"? :) pošto ovo ni ne deluje kao neka nuklearka, mada kapiram da je pod onim brdom tamo "sakrivena". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 pa izgleda da ne mora, i fukushima slicno izgleda...al nek objasni neko od ovih inzinjera ipak:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Koliko ja znam : One prepoznatljive dimnjake imaju samo nuklearne elektrane sa otvorenim reaktorima (shto je starije tehnologija izmedju ostalog), dok ove ostale imaju dimnjake, ali ne onakve (kao iz simpsonova =P, kao shto je Cernobilj imao). Edited April 17, 2011 by Sting Quote We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most and that is the indifference of good men ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Ti "dimnjaci" zapravo nisu dimnjaci, već hiperbolični tornjevi za hlađenje koji koriste strujanje vazduha da hlade vodu iz reaktora - a "dim" je obična para. Pretpostavljam da Fukušima nema jer koristi morsku vodu za hlađenje sistema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 hvala, sad je sve jasnije :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Ti "dimnjaci" zapravo nisu dimnjaci, već hiperbolični tornjevi za hlađenje koji koriste strujanje vazduha da hlade vodu iz reaktora - a "dim" je obična para. Pretpostavljam da Fukušima nema jer koristi morsku vodu za hlađenje sistema. Zapravo koristi morsku vodu da hladi vodu koja ide u reaktor. Video sam u nemackoj jednu nuklearku sa tim ogromnim dimnjakom u nekoj dolini koja je cela ispunjena vodenom parom od doticne. Izgleda sablasno do jaja, komentar kad smo videli to iz daljine je bio "eno ga mordor tamo" :D Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milutin_mica Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 laki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling_towerako te mrzi da citas kilo reci na engleskom, evo ukratko sa sr.wiki Када електрана не би имала торањ за хлађење, морала би да располаже са око 100.000 кубних метара воде на сат, и та количина воде би морала да се континуално враћа у океан, језеро или реку, одакле се вода узима. Овакав принцип рада, без расхладне куле, може временом довести до повећања температуре реке или језера, што би довело до великог поремећаја локалног екосистема и животне средине. Расхладна кула омогућава дисипацију одређене количине топлоте у атмосферу, где се помоћу ветра и ваздуха шири у много већој запремини него што топла вода може да расподели у унутрашњости саме водене масе из које је првобитно узета. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 e da, to je to! i posle ne može ništa da se nauči na internetu :) hvala svima! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Pametni su bili drevni Japanci. http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/249853/Drevno-kamenje-spaslo-sela-od-cunamija Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 dobra fora :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Japanska istorija, koja je obilovala cunamijima, učinila je da kamenje poput ovog, kojim su preci pokušavali da upozore buduća pokolenja na opasnost, postane uobičajen prizor duž obale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 do jaja prica:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Tokio -- Još jedna nuklearna centrala u Japanu ispušta radioaktivnost. Oštećeni reaktor nuklearke "Curuga 2" zbog toga je privremeno isključen. ma daj bre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 CIA SNAJKA! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13306358 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 japan planira da u potpunosti revidira svoje planove na polju energetike...naime sada zamlja oko 30% el. energije dobija iz nuklearki, a do 2030. bi taj procenat trebalo da skoci na 50%...ali u svetlu katastrofe u fukushimi verovatno ce se fokusirati na alternativne izvore energije http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13346537 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 за братски Јапан, нисмо вас заборавили Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) Kako moze biti bratski kad su priznali Kosovo? Nije ti jednak kriterijum Debeli . Edited May 23, 2011 by Sting Quote We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most and that is the indifference of good men ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 признали су Косову јер су окупирана земља, као и ми. и БоТа и оно његово недоношче што преговара са терористима су признали Косову, па то не значи да је Србија непријатељ Србије. ;) Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 jos im je i tajfun falio:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13587264 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 pa postavlja se onda pitanje kakve su sisteme zaštite imali kad ni za šta nisu spremni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milutin_mica Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Pa kakve god da su imali kontam da ih vise nemaju... Nadam se da nece biti nista strasno. Stvarno im je dosta za narednih 50 godina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) Kakva vest, oduševio sam se potpuno razmišljanjem ljudi... Onda to uporediš sa našim lokalnim penzosima koji se tuku za japanske trešnje... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13598607 Japan pensioners volunteer to tackle nuclear crisis By Roland Buerk BBC News, Tokyo The Skilled Veterans Corps, as they call themselves, is made up of retired engineers and other professionals, all over the age of 60. They say they should be facing the dangers of radiation, not the young. It was while watching the television news that Yasuteru Yamada decided it was time for his generation to stand up. No longer could he be just an observer of the struggle to stabilise the Fukushima nuclear plant. The retired engineer is reporting back for duty at the age of 72, and he is organising a team of pensioners to go with him. For weeks now Mr Yamada has been getting back in touch with old friends, sending out e-mails and even messages on Twitter. Volunteering to take the place of younger workers at the power station is not brave, Mr Yamada says, but logical. Mr Yamada has been getting back in touch with old friends via e-mail and even messages on Twitter "I am 72 and on average I probably have 13 to 15 years left to live," he says. "Even if I were exposed to radiation, cancer could take 20 or 30 years or longer to develop. Therefore us older ones have less chance of getting cancer." Mr Yamada is lobbying the government hard for his volunteers to be allowed into the power station. The government has expressed gratitude for the offer but is cautious. Certainly a couple of MPs are supporting Mr Yamada. "At this moment I can say that I am talking with many key government and Tepco people. But I am sorry I can't say any more at this moment. It is on the way but it is a very, very sensitive issue politically," he said. Continue reading the main story “ Start Quote We are not kamikaze... They were going to die - but we are going to come back ” Yasuteru Yamada Certainly it is likely more workers will be needed. The plant is still spewing radiation, nearly three months after an earthquake and tsunami knocked out its cooling systems, triggering explosions. Its operator, Tepco, has now confirmed three of the reactors probably suffered meltdowns. The plan is to bring the plant to a cold shutdown by January, although some experts believe that is over optimistic. To cope with the disaster Japan has raised the radiation exposure limit for emergency workers from 100 millisieverts to 250 millisieverts. But Tepco announced this week two workers at Fukushima might have already been exposed to more. Kamikaze? Many of Mr Yamada's veterans are retired engineers like him. Michio Ito is keen to swap his apron for a radiation suit Others are former power station workers, experts in factory design - and even a singer and two cooks - Mr Yamada says they will be useful to keep his team amused and fed. Michio Ito used to be a primary school teacher but is spending his retirement helping out in a cafe that offers work experience to people with learning difficulties. He is keen to swap his apron for a radiation suit. "I don't think I'm particularly special," he says. "Most Japanese have this feeling in their heart. The question is whether you step forward, or you stay behind and watch. "To take that step you need a lot of guts, but I hope it will be a great experience. Most Japanese want to help out any way they can." Mr Yamada has already tried on his old overalls for size. He says he is as fit as ever - with a lifetime of experience to bring to the task. And he laughs off suggestions his proposed team is comparable to the kamikaze pilots who flew suicide missions in World War II. "We are not kamikaze. The kamikaze were something strange, no risk management there. They were going to die. But we are going to come back. We have to work but never die." Edited June 1, 2011 by Zwerko Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Kakvi carevi. /emote salutes Quote We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most and that is the indifference of good men ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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