Demian Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 prodao nesto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 poceo je proizvodnju celika valjda u prvim manufakturama u svedskoj , imali su neki sistem sa vodom , prakticno polu automatizovan prenos vode i iskoriscenje njene snage za vadjenje ruda i ostalu proizvodnju , ne znam da li ima veze sa njim i da li je to uticalo :D Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 ne, to je bilo ranije :) to je ojacalo vojsku, ali nije bilo nacin na koji je finansirana veca vojska od dotadasnje. takodje, odgovor je ne i na prodaju i dodatne poreze. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Tipujem. Uveo je sluzenje vojnog roka? ... ukusi su razlichiti... reche djavo i sede u trnje... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 evo pomoci - aristokrate ni malo nisu bile srecne ovim resenjem The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 аристократе су биле дужне да обезбеде опрему и логистику за свој део војске? мислим, знам за овај модел организовања војске, али не знам ко га је и кад успоставио... MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 nopz The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Delio je plemićke titule onima koji se učipe za armiju? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Karl XI je prvo prisvojio veliki deo zemlje koji je do tad pripadao plemstvu i aristokratiji (prisvojio drzavi). Nakon toga restruktuirao je armiju na taj nacin da je svaki vojnik dobijao parce zemlje da obradjuje (zemlje koju je oduzeo plemstvu) i zetva je bila njegova plata. Takodje je odredio da svako gazdinstvo koje se obaveze da ce odrzavati vojnika bude oslobodjeno placanja poreza i izuzeto od mobilizacije. Seljacima je bilo omoguceno i da se udruzuju, pa su tako cesto tri ili cetiri manje farme odrzavale jednog vojnika ili mornara. Na taj nacin je omogucio da svaka svedska provincija raspolaze sa 12.000 vojnika uvek spremnih da se odazovu kruni. storm je rekao bih bio najblizi sa manufakturom celika (koja nije imala veze sa ovim dogadjajem, ali je znacajno ojacala svedsku armiju), tako nek pita on sledeci The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 lol, nacionalizacija i zadruge, svedjani prve komunjare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolkonski Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Mene zanima sta je ta jaka armija uradila (nisam ironican)? ----------------- nema vise zezanja A.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Izgubila teritorije :)) al ne zbog vojske, vec zbog losih odluka vodja. Posle Karla XI dosao je njegov sin Karl XII, koji je bio odlican vojskovodja. U njegovo vreme vodio se Veliki severni rat, gde su koplja ukrstili svedjani i holstein sa jedne strane, a rusi, poljaci, litvanci, danci (norveska je tad bila u sastavu danske) i saksonci s druge strane. Iako se cini, kad se pogledaju imena njihovih protivnika, da je Svedska jako najebala u ovom ratu, Svedjani su bili na pragu da dobiju rat. Karl XII se, ako se ne varam, prvo najebao mame Dancima, a potom i Poljsko-Litvancima i Saksoncima, u bici gde je bio brojcano nadjacan. U tom trenutku se cinilo da ce svedjani da se popisaju po faci ovoj velikoj alijansi, ali Karl XII tada pravi kardinalnu gresku koja je Svedsku kostala rata i velikih teritorija - krece na Moskvu po zimi. Naravno, vojska mu biva desetkovana zimom, bolescu i ruskim skirmis napadima i Karl XII zavrsava u izgnanstvu u Turskoj. Svedska u nastavku rata gubi sve balticke teritorije, za sta mogu da okrive i predjasnje vladare koji su instistirali na jakom utvrdjivanju skandinavskih teritorija, na ustrb istocnih, koje su prve pale. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Izgubila teritorije :)) al ne zbog vojske, vec zbog losih odluka vodja. Posle Karla XI dosao je njegov sin Karl XII, koji je bio odlican vojskovodja. U njegovo vreme vodio se Veliki severni rat, gde su koplja ukrstili svedjani i holstein sa jedne strane, a rusi, poljaci, litvanci, danci (norveska je tad bila u sastavu danske) i saksonci s druge strane. Iako se cini, kad se pogledaju imena njihovih protivnika, da je Svedska jako najebala u ovom ratu, Svedjani su bili na pragu da dobiju rat. Karl XII se, ako se ne varam, prvo najebao mame Dancima, a potom i Poljsko-Litvancima i Saksoncima, u bici gde je bio brojcano nadjacan. U tom trenutku se cinilo da ce svedjani da se popisaju po faci ovoj velikoj alijansi, ali Karl XII tada pravi kardinalnu gresku koja je Svedsku kostala rata i velikih teritorija - krece na Moskvu po zimi. Naravno, vojska mu biva desetkovana zimom, bolescu i ruskim skirmis napadima i Karl XII zavrsava u izgnanstvu u Turskoj. Svedska u nastavku rata gubi sve balticke teritorije, za sta mogu da okrive i predjasnje vladare koji su instistirali na jakom utvrdjivanju skandinavskih teritorija, na ustrb istocnih, koje su prve pale. jebote, dal su napoleon i hitler ucili istoriju:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 švedska je poslednji put ratovala 1815, pa vi vidite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corporal Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ajde da prekinemo cutanje. Ko je ujedinitelj Nemacke imperije? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 kog rajha, prvog, drugog, ili treceg hae:)...sveto rimsko nemacko carstvo je stvoreno u 11 ili 12. veku valjda, nemam pojma ko je bio tad car, barbarosa je bio malo kasnije...a posle je bilo brdo onih drzavica, valjda su se ujedinile sredinom 19. veka pre nego sto je bizmark postao kancelar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Свето Римско Царство - Карло Велики ваљда па онда Бизмарк. па Хића. MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corporal Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Bas mislim na drzavice, 1871. godine. hint: Pruska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Bizmark, nek neko drugi postavi pitanje. We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most and that is the indifference of good men ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 evo ja cu, ako smem koja anticka gradjevina ima svod, koji je vec skoro 2000 godina, najveci ikada izgradjeni nearmirani betonski svod It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 panteon? btw, jos uvek nisam siguran za bizmarka, mislim da je ujedinjenje bilo malo pre njega? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 jeste panteon It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corporal Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Bizmark je u to vreme bio kancelar i sproveo je ujedinjenje, cak i napisao ustav par godina pre ujedinjenja. "Ujedinitelj" tj car tog Nemackog carstva je bio Vilhelm I, pruski kralj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Vilhelm je bio samo ceremonijalna politicka figura. Sve konce vlasti u Prusiji je imao Bizmark It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 nek postavlja ko hoce umesto mene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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