nickwood Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) On topic. Izgleda da je fora jednom u dva meseca puštati neki ovakav totalno paušalan tekst radi ne znam ni sam zašto. http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija.php?yyyy=2012&mm=04&dd=13&nav_id=600127 Povodom toga, ja poznajem hjednog ultra kreativca, programera, radi za 2300 bruto, plaća sebi doprinose preko preduzetničke radnje 150 evra. Da je kao što bi trebalo, neto plata bi mu bila 1400 evra, plus državi. 1400 za nekog do jaja programera čak ni kod nas nije nenormalna cifra. Da li iko neko zna nekoga ko zarađuje i približno kao što ovaj sere jednom u dva meseca u afirmativnim carskim tekstovima? Iz te smo branše recimo na ruru. edit: komentari na b92 su krajnje interesantni :) Edited April 13, 2012 by nickwood Quote Ovdashnji P.S> nickwoode, zasto se ne "log_out"-ujes kad si na forumu sa mog kompa? DovlaGSI :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerBah Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Jedno vreme sam radio sa Nemcima (pravio im gomilu reklama za 3D televizore) i mogao da zaradjujem po 15K mesechno. Medjutim taj posao nije jebeno piskaranje, vec hardcore 24/7 cepanje 3ds max-a, AE i mnogo chega josh. Quote А в чем сила, брат? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Edited April 13, 2012 by dvnitycker Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highl1 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 ok Quote 03:34 ( MiGsa ) da budem iskren03:35 ( MiGsa ) nagledao sam se ovde vishe kurcheva nego pichki 22:05 (Ivan_tm) Ozbiljno, tvoj i Cokin sam upamtio odmah 13:43 ( darko ) ja sam puco iz njegove vazdushare [16:42:19] Miša says: pojavio mi se patrijarh pavle u ppl u may know [21:00] <vudu> jebacemo svi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Senior-Magento-Developer-l-New-York,-NY.html problem? Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highl1 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Ja potpisujem da u Beogradu najbolji developeri sa po 15 godina iskustva koji drže projekte u svojim firmama imaju 3-4k evra, plafon plafona, i tih ljudi je opet mnogo malo. Dobar developer/IT sa 5-10 godina iskustva u Srbiji ima oko 1500-2000e. Dalje, da bi vi imali tolike pare, gazda treba na tebi da zarađuje, bio on stranac ili naš, 3-5 puta. I koja je logika nekom u outsorsu da ovde plaća 120-150k $ u Srbiji, kad za iste pare može da ima nekog u USA i da ga gleda svaki dan kako radi, kad radi i sl. Plus, sve na stranu, ali PHP/Magento/web dev ne može da se poredi sa npr onima koji rade C++ ili obj C ali opet, neću nikome da rušim sneška, ako uzimaš 4-5k, bravo mejtori, samo ne znam što si onda gubio vreme na Mauricijusu gde si sam rekao da nisu neke pare i nikakav posao. Ja bih onda sedeo ovde, mlatio 5 soma, vozio RS5 i jebao klinke po ceo dan u mom duplexu na Slaviji od 200 kvadrata Quote 03:34 ( MiGsa ) da budem iskren03:35 ( MiGsa ) nagledao sam se ovde vishe kurcheva nego pichki 22:05 (Ivan_tm) Ozbiljno, tvoj i Cokin sam upamtio odmah 13:43 ( darko ) ja sam puco iz njegove vazdushare [16:42:19] Miša says: pojavio mi se patrijarh pavle u ppl u may know [21:00] <vudu> jebacemo svi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Edited April 13, 2012 by dvnitycker Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highl1 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 opet, i da je potražnja veća, pare kad idu iz USA, oni plaćaju porez, dok tih 120k koje dobiješ tamo ko programer, ti snosiš porez (koji je u tom slučaju oko 40%). Gde je onda tu logika? Ako si dobar u IT-ju, čime god da se baviš, znači da pratiš trendove i tržište, i uvek ćeš da se adaptiraš. Quote 03:34 ( MiGsa ) da budem iskren03:35 ( MiGsa ) nagledao sam se ovde vishe kurcheva nego pichki 22:05 (Ivan_tm) Ozbiljno, tvoj i Cokin sam upamtio odmah 13:43 ( darko ) ja sam puco iz njegove vazdushare [16:42:19] Miša says: pojavio mi se patrijarh pavle u ppl u may know [21:00] <vudu> jebacemo svi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 mislim da je to cisto 110 .. ne znam zbog cega tolika nevera, prosle nedelje me je startovalo lik preko linkedin-a za osmonedeljni ugovor u UK, 350gbp/day naravno da ces moci da se adaptiras ali neces moci da zaradjujes isti novac jer si bio usko specijalizovan za jedan proizvod. ako taj proizvod vise nije toliko trazen na trzistu, isto tako nisu ni tvoje sposobnosti rada sa njim Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highl1 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Ti dobiješ to na ruke, ali od toga plaćaš porez, tako je u USA. Nije nevera, samo onda pošto znam kakvo je stanje u većini domaćih programerskih firmi (Youngculture, PSTech, FirstBeat, Vast, InfoBip, Nordeus) da ne idem dalje od tih "boljih" pa do onih koje smatraju za izbegavanje (Spinnaker, Teletrader, Fonlider etc) većina seniora bi onda batalilo svoje poslove i mlatilo veću kintu? Kako god, cepaj dalje, samo napred Quote 03:34 ( MiGsa ) da budem iskren03:35 ( MiGsa ) nagledao sam se ovde vishe kurcheva nego pichki 22:05 (Ivan_tm) Ozbiljno, tvoj i Cokin sam upamtio odmah 13:43 ( darko ) ja sam puco iz njegove vazdushare [16:42:19] Miša says: pojavio mi se patrijarh pavle u ppl u may know [21:00] <vudu> jebacemo svi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 a zasto uzimas domace programerske firme kao reference? mislim, ja sam svestan da ni jedna od tih mene ne bi platila vise od 1500 - 2000e, zato i nisam zaposlen u srbiji. a zasto ljudi sede i rade u tim firmama, pa nem pojma, verovatno zato jer imaju kredite, zivote, treba im izvesnost, otkud znam. uvek je freelance rad bio finansijski isplativiji nego stalno zaposlenje, koje opet ima neke svoje prednosti. Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highl1 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Zato što su i sve te firme nastale kao outsors 2-3 ortaka koji su radili preko neta, ista je priča za sve Quote 03:34 ( MiGsa ) da budem iskren03:35 ( MiGsa ) nagledao sam se ovde vishe kurcheva nego pichki 22:05 (Ivan_tm) Ozbiljno, tvoj i Cokin sam upamtio odmah 13:43 ( darko ) ja sam puco iz njegove vazdushare [16:42:19] Miša says: pojavio mi se patrijarh pavle u ppl u may know [21:00] <vudu> jebacemo svi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvnityCker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Edited April 13, 2012 by dvnitycker Quote The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mige Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Ja sam juce podigao 149$ zaradjenih na internetu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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