Pipboy Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Po prvobitnoj ideji, film je zapravo trebao da bude skoncentrisan samo na aliene i tu ancient rasu, dok bi ljudi bili samo mikrostatisti u par scena. Čak je trebalo i da ne bude gotovo uopšte dijaloga u skladu sa tim, ali to je naravno bilo nemoguće progurati u producentskim kućama (što ne opravdava Ridlija, Robin Hud je stvarno bio govno neopevano). Quote "You're the first of the official death squads to whom we've been formally introduced... How do you do?" "By my deeds I honour him, V8." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slađan Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ne verujem u ovoj priči uopšte u to da su za ovo krivi producenti i ostala markteinška gamad, nije problem ni do glume, ni do efekata, a Ridli Skot mislim da već godinama radi po svojem jer ima kredibilitet i ne može kao pre 30 godina, da krivi studio za loš film. Tačno se vidi u filmu šta ne valja, režija, a tim i scenario. Quote pljk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ja sam bas bas bas duboko razocaran. sada sam podelio sa drugarima rura svoju takodje veliku zamerku a to je : obicno u filmovima gledamo polugola zenska ledja, dok ovde rade neke sklekove, operisu se nazivo, a pred ogledalom pokazuje dupence i vrcka se musko. zavera gej lobija bas jadan film Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G!!! Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 e jbt ne mogu da verujem da je toliko govnoa imdb 7.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 mene sad kad sam dosao gajbi drma tesko razocarenje. pustam prvi deo da plaknem oko Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ja i dalje tvrdim da je nema Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slađan Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 koja je poenta ovog filma? Quote pljk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 e jbt ne mogu da verujem da je toliko govno a imdb 7.9 ne znam zasto ti je ova ocena neverovatna. IMDB skor uvek ima tendenciju postepenog pada nakon sto prvih par dana i nedelja bude najvishi inache film mi je nedorechen, fali mu neki epski momenat. pricha je mogla biti mnogo grandioznija a sto se tiche stijinog pitanja, ja sam tvrdio odmah nakon projekcije ovo sto pishe i na vikipediji (mada ne kazem da je vikipedija u pravu) A spacecraft arrives on Earth in the distant past. A humanoid alien drinks a dark liquid. Its body disintegrates and falls into a waterfall, seeding Earth with its DNA, in an act of directed panspermia. Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) meni nije toliko govno npr pitanje za one koji su gledali koja je poenta uvodne scene, kad pije ono govno i raspada se nad vodopadom? naseljavanje zemlje, ali zasto, nemam pojma Edited June 6, 2012 by Kung Lao Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 slazem se Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) @ stija In Prometheus, the Engineers turn out to be the creators of mankind, who accidentally formed life on Earth due to the sacrifice of a single Engineer. LOL evo jos malo... 1 - Seeding new life The Engineers chose a fertile planet with an atmosphere and send a lone engineer to the planet to propagate new life by sacrificing himself. He drinks the genetic material in the chalice and the process of breaking his body down into its componant parts begins with him literally dissolving in the body of water where his seed will be spread across oceans to reach every part of the planet where, eventually, new life will be formed from the building blocks of their race. 2 - Bio-Weapon testing The Engineers test a weapon on a deserted lifeless planet. they drop off a lone test subject and leave to observe what happens. the test subject drinks from a test vial and immediately his body is broken down to its componant parts, dissolving him and erradicating life... But due to the nature of the unstable organic material they are experimenting with, the accidental by-product of the process is to inadvertently seed life on this lifeless world. In both examples, the Engineers chose a planet (lets call it Earth) to test this substance on. Evolution begins as a by product of their interference. whether it was intentional or an accidental by product, I cant say, but both explanations fit with the other events in the film, although the decision to return to earth (from the Starchart scene with David and the Holograms) was made approximately 2000 years ago, but was never carried out for some reason. Are we the intentional product of terraforming or an accident of a weapons test? Would we be disappointed if our creators made us "because they could"? Would we be horrified if our creators made us by accident? Would they seek to eradicate us because we were somehow flawed (violent tendencies, different evolutionary development, accidentally creating something that could become more dangerous than anything the engineers had encountered before?) Edited June 6, 2012 by Kung Lao Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 pa mozda ako je ako nastala snuki... Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slađan Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 evo, već dva sata se mislim, zašto, o zašto. Quote pljk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) Odmah nakon projekcije filmu sam prebacio nelogichnost oko rasta onog stvora koji doktorka izvadi iz sebe, koji u tom trenutku ima 4,5 kila maks a u trenutku kada sjebe "Inzenjera" ima barem 500 kila, a da ne znash od cega se tako nagruvao, ali posle sam ukapirao i da u originalnoj kvadrologiji elieni nakon chestbuster faze izrastu u odrasle jedinke ekspresno a da nije nikada recheno chime se oni hrane, niti je jasno da se oni uopste hrane telima svojih zrtava Edited June 6, 2012 by iguana Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slađan Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 to su neke suspenison of disbelief stvari koje krase svaki sf film ali meni su to najmanji problemi u filmu. Quote pljk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 meni je samo jasno - ako film ne prodje uzasno u USA, a mislim da za takav neuspeh postoje realne sanse, - snimace Prometheus 2 Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slađan Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 mene samo plaši što ridli sad radi nastavak ili šta već Blejd Ranera. Quote pljk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ja mislim, ili barem sebe ubedjujem da je to samo patka pa to je kao kada bi pravili Citizen Kane 2 Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hmmm, meni se film dosta svideo, pored par plot breakera, sve mi je na mestu. Glumci, rezija, spec efekti, dizajn gadgeta, mracnost samog filma. Eto bas ta mracnost mi se svidja, podsetila me je na mracnost Starcraft 1 sveta. Do jaja mi se svideo dizajn Prometheus broda, kako se lozim na takav dizajn, koji je sci fi - ali odise funkcionalnim dizajnom pre nego estetskim. Primer dizajna koji je suprotan od ovog, tj od kog mi je muka: Blizzard dizajn , npr neki ratnik u ruzicastom spicastom oklopu sa fluorescentnim svetlecim macem. Sve u svemu moja preporuka, film za obavezno pogledati. PS. Manite me prica da nisam "dobro" skapirao film, ili da nisam skapirao prve Alien filmove, to je jednostavno kao ona diskusija ko je shvatio Dolana a ko nije... Quote Andjeo smrti spusti buktinju i s' njom ugasi se jadno bice moje. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ja mislim, ili barem sebe ubedjujem da je to samo patka pa to je kao kada bi pravili Citizen Kane 2 in before all this sequels and prequels ... gone ... like farts in the wind Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 zao sto mi je sto moraju da nabijaju prst u oko ljudima sa iole mozga na konto gledaoca sa jeftinijim ulaznicama, kao da nismo znali da je od vikersove cale vejland pa nam treba scena kao iz esmeralde. i ono sto je crnja rekao, dolaze na planetu gde niko nije krocio hiljadama godina, na kojoj besne razarajuce oluje i nalaze utaban put do broda, kao da neko tu vozi svaki dan lol. plus taj dvocasovni rast aliena do tezine od dve tone. jednostavno je bioloski nemoguce da bez ikakve vrste hrane napravi toliku masu. david je sjajna tacka filma, polako razvija (uglavnom negativne) ljudske osobine kroz film, i nije uvek u potpunosti jasno sta ON zapravo zeli. nije mi jasno ni zasto je zarazio carlija. takodje mi nije jasan motiv inzenjera da zacnu zivot na zemlji i to na onaj nacin (putem crne tecnosti za koju mi nije jasno da li je u pitanju isto ono uskladisteno oruzje iz broda ili nesto drugo. sa druge strane, postavlja se pitanje da li je to sto su uradili namerni vid panspermije ili mozda testiranje oruzja, s obzirom da je inzenjer u onim krpama definitivno neka vrsta ritualnog/religioznog lica. Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Ali zar nismo zakljucili da je na pocetku on razorio svoj dnk. barem tako izgleda. Ma uostalom, mrzi me da pisem ali mnogo nelogicnosti i nejasnca u filmu, koje nisu tu da zagolicaju mastu vec je film radjen ofrlje. Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G!!! Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 ne znam zasto ti je ova ocena neverovatna. IMDB skor uvek ima tendenciju postepenog pada nakon sto prvih par dana i nedelja bude najvishi inache film mi je nedorechen, fali mu neki epski momenat. pricha je mogla biti mnogo grandioznija pa neverovatna je bez obzira na tenedenciju menjanja ocene na imdbu, da na samom pocetku procitam samo negativne ocene a jbt 7,9 nije malo od 20k+ ocenjivaca normalno vise verujem zivom coveku nego imdbu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) razorio ga je, ali pitanje je da li je svrha onoga sto je popio razaranje dnk (mada ne vidim poentu u tome, osim testiranja eventualnog oruzja), pa je covek nastao slucajno, ili je svrha restruktuiranje, sto mi je logicnije jer taj engineer tu deluje kao da je sa tom svrhom tu dosao, a maticni brod nadgleda to. da ne zaboravim, hvala boletu za karte :* Edited June 7, 2012 by Kung Lao Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal1mero Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Je li je ovo neki horor film ?:D ja volim naucnu fantastiku ali te neke uzasne scene ne prijaju mom senzibilitetu :DDDDD Quote Нема будућности без истине. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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