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[shiki]

da ne otvaram nov topik...posto je ovaj dosta posecen.. da pitam:

Jel je dozvoljeno da kupim 2 ista itema?? (npr. 2 basher-a)

[Green]

Jeste.

[Mare]

... >_<

[evgeniy]

indeed

[Coffin]

rofl

rofl

[Rambe]

da ne otvaram nov topik...posto je ovaj dosta posecen.. da pitam:

Jel je dozvoljeno da kupim 2 ista itema?? (npr. 2 basher-a)

...mlad si ti josh mladi padawanu [:D]

[LaG]

shtosovi su vam na nivou dece iz obdanishta

[evgeniy]

tvoji inache probijaju sve granice

[badnick]

da ne otvaram nov topik...posto je ovaj dosta posecen.. da pitam:

Jel je dozvoljeno da kupim 2 ista itema?? (npr. 2 basher-a)

moze ali najcesce nije pametna stvar za uraditi.

naprimer kod drugog besha dobajs samo +7.5% besha.a ako vec imas bash kao skil onda ti i prvi bash daje manje besha.tako da se sav najezim kad vidim voida ili slaninara sa dva basha.uvek je bolje zbudziti atak spid.

isto tako i kod krita,ali nisam siguran za procente.i kad ti pise da si napravio krit na krit to u stvari nije istina:)

evasion se ne stackuje,pa ti se racuna samo najveci.

za dva mkba nisam siguran da li se sabiraju procenti,pre bih rekao 30%+15%.

da ne pominjem ajteme na koje se moze kliknuti,jer ce svi imati isti rifresh...

e sad mene zanima,onaj item sto se spravlja sa dva ringa i daje 30% resistance na madjije,da li se stakuje sa magininom trecom?

i nesto mi se cini da sam video lunu sa life stealom,to nije moglo ranije?

Edited September 6, 2007 by kakoo

[LaG]

tvoji inache probijaju sve granice

ne, ali nisu retardirani..

[Johnn1e]

moze ali najcesce nije pametna stvar za uraditi.

naprimer kod drugog besha dobajs samo +7.5% besha.a ako vec imas bash kao skil onda ti i prvi bash daje manje besha.tako da se sav najezim kad vidim voida ili slaninara sa dva basha.uvek je bolje zbudziti atak spid.

isto tako i kod krita,ali nisam siguran za procente.i kad ti pise da si napravio krit na krit to u stvari nije istina:)

evasion se ne stackuje,pa ti se racuna samo najveci.

za dva mkba nisam siguran da li se sabiraju procenti,pre bih rekao 30%+15%.

da ne pominjem ajteme na koje se moze kliknuti,jer ce svi imati isti rifresh...

e sad mene zanima,onaj item sto se spravlja sa dva ringa i daje 30% resistance na madjije,da li se stakuje sa magininom trecom?

i nesto mi se cini da sam video lunu sa life stealom,to nije moglo ranije?

Stackuje se , moze luna sa lifestealom.

[strax_su]

Moj drugar:

Venomancer-bubreg

axe-vrteska

spiritbreaker-heroj s fenjerom

nerubian assasian-balegar

nerubian weawer- mravac

jednom u igraoni cujem lika kako igra s yurnerom i kad yurnero udari critical on viche "ha ja"

Toliko za sada

[Kojot]

A ako to znas kakao??

Recimo luni kaze da sanik, manki, critkla ne rade na giava ali ustvari rade na prvoj ne na sotlaim

AKo spojsih S i J i satanik satanik rdi sve dok ne sangeujes lika tada ne rada i posle opet radi

itd itd

MIslim da princip po kome igra racuna bashg nije jasan ni samom Icefrogu

ili ti imas neki pouzdan zivor

iskreno me interesuje!!

[ZuXuL]

ovo sam kopirao sa nekog drugog foruma,cisto da znate iduci put sta cete reci :D

----------------Diminishing returns----------

Whenever you hear this, what it means is that a certain effect has an increased percentage, but not directly increased. If you have 20% of something, and an item or skill that gives another 20% of that something, if it stacks diminishingly, it will not equal 40%!

The way to work out diminishing returns is to use this formula:

T = C/100 + (100-C)/100 * E/100

T is the Total percent, C is the Current percent, and E is the Extra percent.

For example, if you have a melee hero with 25% bash and buy the item Cranium Basher, the extra 15% bash stacks diminishingly. To work out the total percent, use the formula:

T = 0.25 + (100-25)/100 * 0.15

= 0.25 + 0.75 * 0.15

= 0.25 + 0.1125

= 0.3625

The total bash percent would be 36.25%. If you added another Cranium Basher, to work out the bash percentage, again apply the formula. Note that the Current Percent is changed to 36.25%

T = 0.3625 + (100-36.25)/100 * 0.15

= 0.3625 + 0.6375 * 0.15

= 0.3625 + 0.095625

= 0.458125

The total bash percent would then be 45.8125%.

--------------Critical------------------

1St of all, multiple Burizas on a hero will cause the critical strike chance to stack diminishingly. To calculate the chance to critical strike, for a hero with two burizas, we use the Diminishing Return formula:

T = 0.20 + (100-20)/100 * 0.20

= 0.20 + 0.80 * 0.20

= 0.36

With two burizas, a hero has a 36% chance to Critical Strike.

A hero with Critical Strike as a skill who gets Buriza will be Critical Striking a lot, but it is important to note that when the infamous "double critical" occurs (when you see two criticals appear at one time, on your screen), they do not stack. The hero's skill will take precedence over the item's effect, which can be a good thing sometimes, or a bad thing others.When a hero has a Crystalys and Buriza, again, when the infamous double critical occurs, it doesnt really happen - the criticals do not stack! In this case, the Crystalys's critical strike will take precedence over the Buriza's critical strike, so you will actually deal less damage than you would have, had you just got a Buriza

alone

-----------------Bash-----------------

There are two other passive skills which can stun for a short duration. The first is Sniper's Headshot, which has a 40% chance to stun for 0.1 seconds. The second is MKB, which has a 30% chance to stun for 0.1 seconds. It is important to note that these skills will not stack with each other; for example, if you bash a target with the bash from a cranium basher, and then the short bash from the MKB occurs, the stun from the basher will be cancelled.

For easy reference:

On heroes without bash -

1 Cranium Basher : 15% bash

2 Cranium Bashers : 27.75% bash

3 Cranium Bashers : 38.5875% bash

4 Cranium Bashers : 47.79937% bash

5 Cranium Bashers : 55.62946% bash

6 Cranium Bashers : 62.28504% bash

On heroes with 25% bash (Timestopper, Slithereen Guard) -

1 Cranium Basher : 36.25% bash

2 Cranium Bashers : 45.8125% bash

3 Cranium Bashers : 53.94062% bash

4 Cranium Bashers : 60.84953% bash

5 Cranium Bashers : 66.7221% bash

6 Cranium Bashers : 71.71378% bash

On heroes with 10% bash (Troll Warlord) -

1 Cranium Basher : 23.5% bash

2 Cranium Bashers : 34.975% bash

3 Cranium Bashers : 44.72875% bash

4 Cranium Bashers : 53.01944% bash

5 Cranium Bashers : 60.06652% bash

6 Cranium Bashers : 66.05654% bash

-------------Magic Resistance--------------

Every hero starts out with a natural 25% magic resistance to spells. A spell that says it does 300 damage will only do 225 damage to heroes (75% of 300). On top of that, there are items which give magic resistance, and even some heroes that have skills which increase magic resistance. Getting extra magic resistance stacks diminishingly, though.

When a hero buys a Planeswalker's cloak, which gives 15% magic resistance, to calculate the total magic resistance we use the formula for Diminishing Return.

T = 0.25 + (100-25)/100 * 0.15

= 0.25 + 0.75 * 0.15

= 0.25 + 0.1125

= 0.3625

Total magic resistance with a Planeswalker's Cloak is 36.25%.

When a hero upgrades the Planeswalker's cloak to an Aegis of the Immortal, which gives 35% magic resistance, to calculate the total magic resistance we again use the formula:

T = 0.25 + (100-25)/100 * 0.35

= 0.25 + 0.75 * 0.35

= 0.25 + 0.2625

= 0.5125

Total magic resistance with an Aegis of the Immortal is 51.25%. Note that the current magic resistance was 25% because you no longer have the Planeswalker's cloak! If the hero with an Aegis then buys another Planeswalker's cloak, the magic resistance will not stack. Likewise, if the hero with an Aegis then buys another Aegis, the magic resistance will, again, not stack.

-------------------EVASION---------------

There are two ways to get evasion: Through a hero that has a skill that gives evasion (Phantom Assassin's Blur, Panda's Drunken Brawler or Bounty Hunter's Jinada). The other way is to get either the item Butterfly, or the item Radiance ("blinding" effect counts as evasion; ta to Lionel for that).

Evasion never stacks. Period. Getting multiple butterflys, or a butterfly on a hero that already has evasion does not do anything (although on a hero that already has evasion, the hero's skill will take precedence).Note: Evasion is different from a skill that will cause a target or targets to miss. Evasion stacks with spells that make a target/targets miss! Evasion of a hero and accuracy loss of an opponent do stack together, diminishingly... For example, a Troll Warlord with a butterfly would have 25% evasion on top of making an enemy miss 42% of the time. His theoretical evasion would be:

TE = 42 + (100-42)/100 * 25

= 56.5%

Note that Backtrack (Voidwalker) is different from evasion. A butterfly on Voidwalker will stack with his backtrack. The way it works is, first, the Voidwalker will have a chance to evade the attack (25%). After this, if the evasion doesn't proc, he will then have a chance to backtrack the hit (25%). So, total evasion would be:

TE = 25 + (100-25)/100 * 25

= 43.75%

PS.ovde gore pise aegis,ali medjutim da je isti pricip stackovanja i za hood of resistance...sve to mozes tacno da vidis na dota-allstars.com forume....

edit:stackovanje hood of resistance-a sa herojima koji vec imaju spell resistance sposobnost je moguc... npr kod pudge ili vipera(oni imaju spellresistance)..ali to moze da se stackuje jedino na sledeci nacin:prvo moras da kupis hood of defiance,pa tek posle toga da pocnes da uzimas npr trecu kod pudge-a da bi se stackovao resistance...isti princip i kod vipera..za antimage-a vishe nisam siguran,morao bi da provjeris forume.napomena:ako tokom partije(npr kad si lvl 25),izbacis hood of defiance iz inventory-a,stack se gubi,i ne moze da se vrati.

Edited September 6, 2007 by ZuXuL

[Johnn1e]

To stackovanje magic resistanca je koliko znam ispravljeno u zadnjoj verziji, tako da kad god napravio hood = stackuje se.

Edited September 6, 2007 by Johnn1e

[Mare]

Najbolje se od svih itema stackuje battle fury, sa 2 battle fury-a i cleaveom oko 100% cleave-a..

[badnick]

A ako to znas kakao??

omanuo sam za procente:/

a kad malo bolje razmislim,ni ovo za krit mislim da nije tacno kad je u pitanju skil plus kristalis/buriza,jedino ne radi krit na krit.

Stackuje se , moze luna sa lifestealom.

pa primetio sam,nego me interesuje jel tako bilo i ranije.

[Mare]

jeste bilo je i ranije, jedino sto se ostali (ja mislim cak nijedan) orb ne stackuje kod lune.. dakle ako napravis skadi, maelstorm etc, nece uopste imati attack :P

[SchKabBio]

1.Bracer-Bracer

2.Wrath band-Bracer,samo za agility

3.Null Talisman-Ribica

4.Mask of Madness-Kapetan Amerike

5.Eul-Dizanje

6.Necromincion-Malci

7.Dagon-Zunza

8.Scepter-Nadogradjenje zadnje

9.Refresher-Ponavljanje zadnje

10.Eye of skadi-Seljacka glava

11.Monkey king bar-Monkey chinky linky

12.Linken sphere-Blinki sphere

13.Tango-Drveta

14.Bottle-Cutura

15.Dagger-Kac(Blink=Blinkac=Kac)

16.Currias-Rebarca

17.Vladimir Offering-Vladimirov

18.Arcane ring-Onaj item sto vraca manu.

[Johnn1e]

2.Wrath band-Bracer,samo za agility

18.Arcane ring-Onaj item sto vraca manu.

Moji favoriti \o/

[Lw.TingoL]

jeste bilo je i ranije, jedino sto se ostali (ja mislim cak nijedan) orb ne stackuje kod lune.. dakle ako napravis skadi, maelstorm etc, nece uopste imati attack :P

moze skadi posle satanica np

[SchKabBio]

To je samo za iteme :) ewo faworita za heroje Nocni Staklar xD , Tidehunter-Ajkula , Tauren-Mlatimud ........etc itd.

[Radule_]

1.Bracer-Bracer

2.Wrath band-Bracer,samo za agility

3.Null Talisman-Ribica

4.Mask of Madness-Kapetan Amerike

5.Eul-Dizanje

6.Necromincion-Malci

7.Dagon-Zunza

8.Scepter-Nadogradjenje zadnje

9.Refresher-Ponavljanje zadnje

10.Eye of skadi-Seljacka glava

11.Monkey king bar-Monkey chinky linky

12.Linken sphere-Blinki sphere

13.Tango-Drveta

14.Bottle-Cutura

15.Dagger-Kac(Blink=Blinkac=Kac)

16.Currias-Rebarca

17.Vladimir Offering-Vladimirov

18.Arcane ring-Onaj item sto vraca manu.

Fenomenalno xD

[Acid91]

Tidehunter - teletabis

nocni staklar

Tormented Soul - Beli konj

keepr of the light - Kuvar

Shadow Fiend - onaj crni kurac

Ursa Warrior - Surdulica

Anti - Mage - Vagina

Brothemother - Pauk sa decom

Viper - Crni Zmaj

BloodSeeker - Krtica

Slardar - Kinesko Zmaj

Nesecam se ostalih ima ih jos :

[Veljok]

ultimate spell = zadnja magija = (6) Shesta magija :))