Istorijske pitalice :)

[Unknown user 234]

jel to kad su nas bugari izjebali 1885...valjda je bio prevrat u istocnoj rumeliji koja se odvojila od turske i pripojila bugarima...onda se milan zaleteo mislivsi da ce naterati bugare da brzo potpisu primirje, ali je ispusio...sva sreca pa im vratismo u drugom balkanskom:)

upravo to :)

postavljaj pitanje

[Dule_smor]

ha, znam i ja ponesto, osim japana, ali ipak hiromishi ftw!:D

elem, kako se zvala jedina podmornica u istoriji koja je potopila drugu podmornicu dok su obe bile pod vodom?

:D

a imam pravo i na jos jedno bonus pitanje, to drugi put:)

[cali]

Poshto duleta nema, gugl ce odgovoriti

HMS Venturer (P68) was a World War II British submarine and the lead boat[1] of the V-Class (officially called the "'U'-Class Long hull 1941-42 program").

She sank U-771 on 11 November 1944 7 nautical miles (13 km) east of Andenes, Norway, off the Lofoten Islands. Her most famous mission, however, was her eleventh patrol out of the British submarine-base at Lerwick in the Shetland Islands, under the command of 25-year-old Jimmy Launders, which included the only time in the history of naval warfare that one submarine intentionally sank another while both were submerged.

Sent to the Fedje area, Venturer was then ordered (on the basis of Enigma decrypts) to seek, intercept and destroy U864 which was in this area carrying a cargo of 65 tonnes of mercury and Messerschmitt jet engine parts to Japan,[2][3]

On 6 February 1945 U864 passed the Fedja area without being detected, but on the 9th Venturer heard U-864's engine noise (Launders had decided not to use ASDIC since it would betray his position) and spotted the U-boat's periscope as her captain looked for his escort. In an unusually long engagement for a submarine and in a situation for which neither crew had been trained, Launders waited 45 minutes after first contact before going to action stations, waiting for U864 to surface and thus present an easier target. Upon realizing they were being followed by the British submarine and that their escort had still not arrived, U-864 zig-zagged underwater in attempted evasive manoeuvres, with each submarine occasionally risking raising her periscope.

Venturer had only 8 torpedoes as opposed to U-864's 22, and so after 3 hours Launders decided to make a prediction of his opponent's zig-zag, and release a spread of his torpedoes into its predicted course. This manual computation of a firing solution against a three-dimensionally manoeuvring target was the first occasion on which techniques were used which became the basis of modern British torpedo computer targeting computer systems.[4]

The first torpedo was released at 12.12 and then at 17 second intervals after that (taking 4 minutes to reach their target), and Launders then dived suddenly to evade any retaliation from his opponent. U864 heard the torpedoes coming and also dived deeper and turned away to avoid them, managing to avoid the first three but unknowingly steering into the path of the fourth. Exploding, U864 split in two, was sunk with all hands and came to rest more than 150 m (500 ft) below the surface on the seafloor. Launders was granted a bar to his DSO for this action.

During her career she also sank five merchant ships.[5]

Kad smo vec kod podmornica, evo josh jedno pitanje:

britanske podmornice su bile veoma uspeshne u WW1 protiv nemachkog brodovlja koje je transportovalo chelik iz shvedske. Poshto je mornarica gledala na podmornicare kao na nizhu klasu, britanski podmornichari su posle svake uspeshne misije isticali posebnu zastavu u inat ostatku mornarice.

Koja je to zastava bila?

[Doolio]

hintuj, posto nas nema pametnih:)

[cali]

megahint: koja je univerzalno najomraženija zastava svih mornarica?

[faq2]

gusarska? :)

[cali]

Britanski humor FTW :)

Tradicija je i dan danas živa među britanskim podmorničarima, kada se HMS Turbulent vratio iz Iraka sa Jolly Roger zastavom posle ispaljenih 30 Tomahavka.

Bojinho sledeći

[faq2]

kad smo vec kod gusara...Koji Rimljanin je bio najpoznatiji gusarski zarobljenik?

[cali]

Gaj Julije Cezar, u u mladjim danima pre pohoda na zapadnu evropu?

[Sting]

Oktavijan Avgust mi se ipak cini da je bio?

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Oktavijan Avgust mi se ipak cini da je bio?

da najavim svoje prisustvo - ovo je super ideja i bas mi se igra :)

inace u pravu je kali - gaj julije cezar je u pitanju (doduse mnogo pre njegovih pohoda)

Edited October 26, 2009 by BarcaS take 2

[faq2]

Jeste G.J.Cezar i to kao sto je Cali napisao, u mladjim danima. Kad su ga zarobili, gusari su trazili otkup, a Cezar se uvredio visinom otkupa i savetovao im je da traze duplo. Kad je oslobodjen organizovao je poteru i pobio ih.

EDIT:typo

Edited October 26, 2009 by Bojinho

[cali]

Jeste G.J.Cezar i to kao sto je Cali napisao, u mladjim danima. Kad su ga zarobili, gusari su trazili otkup, a Cezar se uvredio visinom otkupa i savetovao im je da traze duplo. Kad je oslobodjen organizovao je poteru i pobio ih.

EDIT:typo

Obecao im je da ce ih okachiti na krst, i ispunio je obecanje :)

Koliko je bilo krstashkih ratova?

[dvnityCker]

devet

[cali]

mnogo sam loshe sastavio pitanje, poshto sam mislio da obuhvati i manje krstashke pohode na bliski istok. jbg, dvntycker sledeci

[dvnityCker]

Jedan je od malobrojnih velikih vojskovodja koji nikada nisu izgubili bitku. Ziveo je u XVIII veku i borio se izmedju ostalih protiv otomana, francuza, litvanaca i poljaka. Pred kraj zivota je uspeo da izvede fantasticno povlacenje preko Alpa, gde je njegova vojska napadana, ali nikad porazena. No na zalost, nakon smene monarha u maticnoj drzavi, proveo se kao bos po trnju jer ga novi monarh nikako nije gotivio ni nagradio zbog velikih dela, naprotiv, otpustio ga je iz vojske. umro je star i bolestan, u 70. godini.

Njegovo ime je?

[dvnityCker]

ako ne bude odgovora, ujutro dajem hint

[dvnityCker]

OK evo ga hint:

Neke od njegovih titula jesu:

Generalisimus Ruskog Carstva

Italijanski knez

Grof Rimskog carstva (Holy Roman Empire)

[Sting]

Znao sam odma na koga si mislio, ali jebesh mi ne mogu da se setim njegovog imena.

[dvnityCker]

Nakon pada Varsave 1794. poslao je carici Rusije Katarini pismo sa sadrzajem "Ura, Varsava je nasa!" na sta je katarina odgovorila sa "Ura, marsale!" (valjda mi je dobar vokativ), time ga promovisuci zapravo u Marsala. No, nakon sto je Katarina umrla, 1976, na celo Rusije dosao je Pavel I Petrovic, koju mu nije bio naklonjen. Nakon fantasticnog povlacenja preko Alpa, dobija od Rusije zvanje generalisimusa i obecanje o vojnoj svecanosti kad se vrati, ali je Pavel tu svecanost otkazao

[dvnityCker]

Poslednji hint - autor je knjige Nauka Pobede i ime mu je slicno imenu poznatog proizvodjaca kristalnog nakita

[Faramir]

blaaah.. tachno znam na koga mislish..

onaj baja koji je tukao bio Francuske republikance tamo po Italiji, pa je valjda primljen u kucu Savoja kao pochasni chlan..

uzgred jel nashi istorichari prevode ovog ruskog cara kao Pavela ili kao Pavla? poshto mislim da sam negde prochitao Pavle I.. A njegov sin se kasnije vodio u istoj kao Aleksandar Pavlovich.. tako da nisam siguran, pa rekoh da pitam :)

Suvrirov tako neshto se zove ovaj lik, ali stvarno ne mogu da mu se setim pravog imena, ali se secam kada sam chitao o njemu ^^

edit: kako sam krenuo da nagadjam dobro nisam napisao survivor hahahah :D

Edited October 27, 2009 by tzarinho

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Poslednji hint - autor je knjige Nauka Pobede i ime mu je slicno imenu poznatog proizvodjaca kristalnog nakita

Aleksandar Suvorov (ili Suvarov) - mislim da mu je najveci uspeh sto je kod svojih potcinjenih (oficira i vojnika) trenirao i zahtevao od njih da misle svojom glavom i da pokazu inicijativu - tj da svaki oficir je u stanju da bude general u datom trenutku. Na taj nacin je umanjio problem koji se javljao usled sporog prenosenja (ili nemogucnosti) naredjenja od glavokomandujuceg do svojih potcinjenih. da parafraziram "ako se propusti pravi trenutak za delovanje da bi se sacekao trenutak za sprovodjenje "savrsenog plana" moze se desiti da tada ni brigada ne moze da uradi koliko je mogla da uradi samo ceta".

- nisam pratio da li onaj koji postavlja pitanje treba da potvrdi odgovor ili ne tako da cu sacekati da dviny kaze da li je tacan pa cu onda dati moje pitanje.

[dvnityCker]

Barcas, to je tacan odgovor. carinjo, blizu, ali nedovoljno blizu :)

Aleksandr V. Suvorov (1729-1800) was probably the greatest military commander who ever lived. He was easily in the same league as Alexander the Great, George S. Patton Jr., and Hannibal. He was the one man who, at the end of the 18th century, could have stopped Napoleon in his tracks; Longworth (1965, The Art of Victory) says that Napoleon may have been afraid of Suvorov, who humiliated several of Napoleon's future marshals in Italy and Switzerland. A comparison of Suvorov's principles to Frederick the Great's own writings proves that "Old Fritz" was very lucky that Suvorov was only a junior officer during Prussia's wars with Russia. Longworth summarizes Suvorov's career, "He won far too frequently to be called lucky: he never lost." Suvorov's record was, in fact, 63 victories and no losses, often against numerically superior enemies. During an era in which "victory" went to whoever controlled the battlefield at the day's end, a victory by Suvorov often involved the complete destruction of the opposing army; its soldiers were usually killed or wounded, captured, or routed beyond hope of reorganization.* Suvorov rarely had to fight the same troops more than once.

* At Kinburn (1787), Suvorov and 3000 Russians defended a position against 5000 Turks. Under contemporary standards, Suvorov would have won by denying the position to the Turks, which he could have done by opposing their amphibious landing. Suvorov allowed the Turks to disembark instead, for his objective was not merely to stop them, but to destroy them! The Turkish marines suffered between 70 and 90 percent casualties, while the Russians lost fewer than 10 percent.

Barcas pita dalje

[BarcaS take 2]

Koja je bila poslednja bitka jednog od najvecih vojskovodja starog veka, a i uopste, Hanibala Barke?