INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

[LaG]

napisah tekst na nekom drugom forumu, pa kad sam se vec iscimao da ga sklopim zhao mi da i ovde ne pejstujem :) dakle:

recimo da bi prvi momenti inda u tehnu bili recimo carl craig i mills (jeff mills je svoju muzichku karijeru zapocheo svirajuci u industrial bendu), obojica artisti iz detroita, industrijskog grada koji je u to doba bio u relativno velikoj finansijskoj i socijalnoj krizi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoI8jk8U_84 carl craig (skontacete da je kik usemplovan od liaisons dangereuses)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBB1MJmOMU mills

mills

e sad, to su likovi koji su radili svega po malo, pa i ind-a tako da nisu bash neshto mnogo gurali sam taj pravac (shto je ok, ali ih lishava titule godfathera ind tehna :))

u birmingemu (engleskom industrijskom gradu) pojavljuju se likovi pod imenom anthony child (aka surgeon) i karl o connor (aka regis, aka O/V, aka ian j. richardson aka...). iskreno me inache mrzi da zalazim u njihovu proshlost, kao shto me inache ne zanimaju toliko biografije artista, ali mi drugar koji je napaljeni fan kazhe da su fakd ap momci. regis je bio predvodnik navijachke grupe, obojica su imali neke momente po psihijatrijskim bolnicama i sl (mada buduci da je regis u pitanju - slabo u to verujem poshto chovek stalno zajebava ljude)

obojica zapochinju neki neki ind fazon u tehnu da guraju i na kraju zajedno postaju british murder boys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAdgwHB1mDM...feature=related rani surgeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4E1exfpi0E rani regis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspxZFJ5c8Y...feature=related surgi rana srednja faza (ovo je mozhda i najkvalitetniji industrial techno album. cela plocha je tribute coilu a u klipu koji sam okachio su ustvari dve pesme a ne jedna)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0VYRfq9L-w regis rana srednja faza (lik je negde prochitao da odredjeni vokal lupovi mogu da navedu osobe da se samopovredjuju...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrqIfs19dDY srednja faza surgi (plocha posvecena sado mazohizmu. gomila throbbing gristle semplova)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbjhyBtToo srednja faza regis (opet liasons sempl i voli chovek einsturzende neubauten da sempluje)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJc4gsukBRU kasni surgi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PlsyOI3sq0 kasni regis (album posvecen silovanju)

british murder boys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X7gq0IIpas (mini dokumentarac)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta_Zdz_e_B4...feature=related (prvi bmb)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_nFPRMWXZY...feature=related (traka koja na brejku predje u nojz a la whitehouse. obozhavam ovo da pustim - svi se pogube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zspr7KNBo0

itd, koga zanima mozhe sam da nadje

izdali su samo 6 plocha i odradili par remixa, od kojih mi je najbolji remix kowalskog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xJ7NZycnk

bmb su napravili najbolji ind club tehno. kadgod da se pusti bmb odlepe svi ili se totalno pogube i to je to :).

chini mi se da je u jednom trenutku surgi krenuo u vishe party party smeru a regis je odlepio zbog toga. u svakom sluchaju pre neshto vishe od godinu dana desilo se da je 5 min pre "svirke" regis nestao i nije ga bilo 5-6 dana. posle se javio mejlom u kom je izjavio da ne zheli vishe da bude deo bmb-a, a uskoro je krenuo da radi minimal tehno i time smorio djumle ljudi koji su ga voleli kao idola. istina, chovek ima i dalje neke prelude ind trake kao npr

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=55422 ali mi je stvarno zhao jer je jedna od najvecih budaletina u tehnu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7WR74B3RBU regis live PA

surgeon je, kao shto rekoh, upao u neki "party party" mod shto se produkcije tiche ili uzme pa radi idmish fazon. pre jedno lapo godine je neki nash darkerski forum uchestovovao u radio emisiji pa je djumle chlanova doshla i smiksala po neshto chisto da svi kontribjutujemo. surgeon je snimio mix pod imenom "Now That's What I Call Dark Techno Vol.37" :). tachno se smorio chovek od mraka i ind-a..

e sad, ta dva lika su spawnovala josh neku ekipu oko sebe. female, function, paul bailey (s tim shto je on tu bio pre njih i surgeon je dosta nauchio o produkciji od tog choveka, samo shto su ga tek oni uvukli u ind) itd. istina, pricha se da je regis ustvari radio gomilu traka female-u, functionu i josh gomili likova (tipa dean cole-u je navodno uradio pola diskografije) ali to su priche oko regisa koje su neke istinite a neke bash i ne. on je budaletina koja ima momente da izjavi kako je napisao knjigu i onda se neki retosi zeleni lome po forumima da saznaju gde mogu da je kupe :).. ono shto recimo znamo sigurno je da chovek pomazhe u produkciji scornu (pionir dabstepa i illbienta, bivshi bubnjar napalm death-a)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPvw7nQmIA scorn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaEOF_BzbpM function

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aNgwQBEb1M...feature=related female

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1410912-02-01-03.mp3 paul "damage" bailey

pored ove birmigem ekipe i njihovih padawana pojavilo se tu josh nekih likova. npr shpanci su se jako napalili na industrial pa cu oscar mulero i christian wunsch krenuli da furaju taj fazon. istina, hejtuju ih svi shto su copy/pasteri i mrzi ih da rade nov fazon traka, ali likovi imaju dobru produkciju i nekih jako dobrih traka. wunsch je prestao nedavno da radi ind a oscar i dalje fura to

oscar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfYQGBGa5k...feature=related oscar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEoJriJVHIU wunsch

takodje, u shpanachkoj ekipi pojavio se mladi reeko koji je sekao vene za regisom i njegovom produkcijom (regis je bio posebno popularan kao panker i buntovnik u shpaniji jer je imao radove da npr pushta na zhurci i niko ne obraca pazhnju na njega i onda kreten digne gejn na mixeru, totalno sjebe sve zvuchnike i ode) pa je nabavio svu istu opremu kao on i krenuo u shpanski copy/paste rad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTjj5La2nmM reeko prva plocha

meni mozhda omiljen njegov dj tool

enivej, i on je "prso" i upao u neke neo detroit vode (bash mu i ne ide taj fazon) ali povremeno se "vrati" i napravi neko krljanje

reeko je meni posebno drag jer je njegova plocha na theory-u ono shto me je uvuklo u ind tehno, a pored njega su tu bili i grovskopa i luka baumann

grovskopa (& archae) i luka baumann:

grov i luka su braca. jedan zhivi u shvedskoj a drugi je hrvat. dok je bio klinac grov je radio sa archae-om. arhaj je sad relativno penzionisan jer, shto bi grov rekao "Can't be easy being astronaut, doctor, poet, father, husband, race car driver, bassoonist, cartwright, ophthalmologist, mesmerist AND techno artist." ali svojevremeno je odradio predobre stvari i lik je kao producent dobar tako da je on bio taj koji je realizovao grovove lude ideje.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/98850-01.htm

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/157901-01.htm

posle je grov uzeo da radi trekove sam pa je i on krenuo da varira izmedju industriala i idmish emo varijante

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMgj7AtWeKQ...C8E&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgPalgSms8k...feature=related

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/354098-01.htm

ipak, njegov brat luka mi je jedan od omiljenih industrijalaca. nazhalost nije previshe plocha izdao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZ21V_1VAg

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF209358-01-01-01.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF254376-01-02-01.mp3 (ovo usere ljude najstrashnije :))

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF344971-01-02-02.mp3

u poslednje vreme radi neo-detroit i zapravo ga ide samo shto mi je zhao shto ne radi vishe klanje klanje :)

luka i grov zajedno imaju projekat pod nazivom brethren

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF325901-01-01-01.mp3 (ovo mi je jedna od najsavage ind traka)

josh jedna jako bitna figura industrial tehna je makaton

makaton je chovek koji je najvishe, po meni, isposhtovao "fuck you" princip industriala i bash je chovek pishao po svemu po chemu mozhe. recimo tehno kao zhanr obichno ima pravilo 4/8/16/32 (celine na koliko se deshavaju promene radi laksheg miksa) ali on ne da ih ne poshtuje nego kao da smisli tachno kako da te zbuni i pogubi :). pored toga ima radove da recimo stavi namerno trenserski kik iako tehnashi mrze trensere, ili da brejk koji dizhe lapo sata tako da se svi raduju nadolezecem krljanju totalno usere nechim i tako dalje.. bash ludak. nazhalost trenutno je u fazonu "necu vishe da radim tehno jebite se svi" i sad je preshao na neki bolestan nojz, mada se neshto nagoveshtava da ce se vratiti..

ovo sam pre obozhavao da pustim, a sad mi zhao ljudi :)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF152560-01-01-01.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1410909-02-01-02.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1410909-02-01-01.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1433922-02-01-03.mp3

itd

njegov nojz rad http://www.genericherod.com/flash.html

kapiram da je uglavnom no input varijanta (toshimaru nakamura fazon samo mnogo vishe distorzije)

treba pomenuti i slovake i blueprint ekipu...

slovaci (najpoznatiji su loktibrada i rumenige) su profurali neki "offbeat" fazon. tehno koji nije ni 4/4 jednostavan ritam a ni brejkbit nego je sve nekako u kontri. imali su odredjeni industrial prizvuk i jako jednostavne aranzhmane koji su, opet, jako efikasni. preshli su na minimal lately shto je smor, ali su do sada nashtancali i previshe jako dobrih traka.

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF269848-01-01-02.mp3 lokti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czh47ugwXVk...=PL&index=7 lokti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQvpQTLB5U...feature=related rumenige

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpFG66drZTY...feature=related rumenige

ima jedan noviji chika kog treba pomenuti a u pitanju je dj boss. chovek najbolje radi offbeat od svih gore pomenutih

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1225495-02-01-03.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1225495-02-01-04.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1307419-02-01-02.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1309507-02-01-01.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1288101-02-01-02.mp3

u toj ekipi je i takaaki itoh koji je vrlo omrzhen u ind tehno svetu jer je lik retard na kvadrat. chovek je uzeo surgeonovu "screw the roses" plochu, stavio lp filter na trake i dodao svoje chinele. te trake je onda izdao na svom lejblu pod svojim imenom. retard, retard. svojevremeno je na gore pomenutom darkerskom forumu autofilter prebacivao "takaaki" u "crapaaki".

no, ako izignorishete to shto je lik shupak i gledate samo muziku mozhe se reci da ima tu ponekad ok toolov-a.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0B...p;v=ePDaEdE3zF4

blueprint ekipa:

james ruskin, nick dunton, richard polson i oliver ho su likovi koji su radili slichnu muziku, mada je svako imao neki svoj poseban stil. oni su posebni po tome shto su radili muziku koja je neshto izmedju industriala i detroitskog tehna.

ruskin danas radi minimal (mada se mozhe reci da je ok i da ne smrdi kao 98% ostalog minimala), richard polson i nick dunton su bili 65d mavericks ali je polson 2006. godine preminuo, no nick nastavlja sa tom prichom sam (i izdaje jako jako lepe trake u poslednje vreme, ali nema tu industriala), a ho je preshao na minimal i neki pop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJX63N5AS30 ruskin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnOER4EblI...feature=related ruskin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHoz15KMZ6k oliver ho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyFjMZVepBc 65d mavericks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NE1pO27ZA...feature=related 65d mavericks

novi 65d mavericks (prelepa je traka)

surgeon meets outline (outline su bili ruskin i polson)

bilo je tu josh djumle ekipa koji su neshto kao raduckali pa nestali

mozhda najupechatljivija je E-COM ekipa (ali ne electracom nego bash E-COM)

to su likovi koji su do devedes sheste bili trenseri a onda su krenuli da rokaju najbolesniji tehno ikada. likovi su radili sa tipa jednim semplerom, jednom ritam mashinom i jednim sintom ili tako neka pricha

(isti ljudi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIt9rJFYaiU (obscurum - dom i obscurum - seaborn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOSB-SNBbYI...feature=related (isti ljudi)

stvarno shteta shto su se raspali. prestali su da rade jer ih je zavrnuo neshto distributer i likovi su ostali bez kesha. jedan je sad shef kuhinje u random restoranu a drugi svira u nekom uzhasnom gothic bendu.

nestanak BMB-a je stvorio uslove za novu "bolest" ekipu, tako da su se pojavili ancient methods, po meni trenutno najbolji industrial sastav. u pitanju su dva lika koji su usko vezani za hardwax (berlin) a pricha se da su oni i iza "anstam" projekta (predobar dubstep)

izdali su do sada tri ploche i ne zna se koja je bolja

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIA5f6kGVfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ydw0EcQxbo

trenutno pored svih ovih ljudi ima djumle nekih ekipica koje se kao trude neshto da rade, ukljuchujuci i mene, ali retko ko je sazreo do toga da radi neshto jako jako dobro i upechatljivo. najblizhi su voidloss (http://www.myspace.com/dirtybassvoidloss) londonski sektash koji radi sasvim dobar i jeftin mastering za sve moguce zhanrove, a pored toga radi dark tehno, veseli haus i dabstep; zatim tu je casual violence (http://www.myspace.com/stecasualviolence) chovek koji radi bash mrachnu mrachnu mrtvu ziku i relativno je voljen u darkerskim krugovima zbog emo hitica "briefly sexual", kao i charlton, crnja koji je rodjen u roterdamu a trenutno zhivi u londonu (http://www.myspace.com/charltonbliepwerk).

ako ste prochitali sve - svaka chast :). nadam se da sam nekoga zainteresovao. okachicu za koji dan nekog svog materijala kao i raznih mixeva. ako nekog neshto zanima - slobodno pitajte..

[exile]

Svaka ti cast jeb'te

Ali od svih ovih boleshtina najjacha je Boss-ova Rovny Rokin, jebe mamu kakva traka

[LaG]

evo relativno svezheg intervjua sa chika regisom

Q. how did you get into making music?

A. My favourite colour/color is GOLD.

Q. your music feels very aggressive and dark, can you elaborate on this?

A. Well i feel it to be very gentle and light to be honest. I have

always made music by instinct, real soul music. I would never

contrive to make something dark or aggressive.

Q. are there any visual artists, painters at present you feel are on

the same general frequency as you? filmmakers, writers?

A . The people that directly inspire my music are .....

The painter Val Denham. In my opinion he/she is one of the finest

British painters of the last 40 years ( he/she did cover art for

Throbbing Gristle, Marc and The Mambas etc ) i am lucky enough to

own some of his/her originals.

Writers such as Beckett, Eza Pound inspire me as do Jean Genet and

Georges Bataille.

Film Makers such as Nick Zedd, Richard Kern,Derek Jarman etc...

Q. has downwards been an overall success for you? are you able to get by

on your music work or do you need to hold down a job in addition to

that?

A. Working is for the "Lower Orders" .... i'm an artist Darling ...

always was and always will be !!!

Q. what do you think of the techno scene in america these days?

A. I think most of it now lives in Europe.

Q. the sandwell district label is an interesting development using many

of the downwards guys but having things slowed down and new ideas

thrown in. thoughts?

A. I have to say i find SANDWELL DISTRICT a very odd enterprise. We

already had a sub-label in DN so i'm not really sure what the

motivation behind the label was. I assume ( something one should never

do ) that it was based on some critical examination of Downwards (circa

2002 ), ie, a reflective consideration and evaluation of it's relevance

in the contemporary era. I have to give credit to David Sumner for

giving it heart, soul and direction in the last few years.

Q. why did you leave british murder boys?

A. " Festivals End, As Festivals Must "

Q. some of the really sinister tracks around 1999-2001 that have

chanting, i.e. the stuff on divine ritual, blood into gold; etc. did

you pick those chants arbitrarily for the phonetic quality or is

there some direct meaning in the words?

A. I was reading a book on how people induced religious hallucinations

through mantras ( nothing really earth shattering there ) what really

grabbed my attention was that in some cases due to the repetition in a

certain vocal tone or vibration, the brain was rewired ( a bit like

Infrasound ) and made some people self harm repeatedly because they

were locked into the cycle. " Give Me Your Ears, Split Open Your

Head". I think that pretty much summed up where i was at and what i

was going for at the time.

Q. what were some of the musical artists you loved the most before you

got into making music?

A. Nico, Patti Smith, Pussy Galore, Head of David,Stooges,Roxy

Music,Scott Walker, Brel,Bowie,Cabaret Voltaire,Swell Maps,Joe Meek,

Zev,Virgin Prunes,Crass,Neu, This Heat,NON,Einsturzende

Neubauten,Swans ,Wire,The Associates,DAF,Desperate Bicycles,The Pop

Group,The Birthday Party,Foetus,

Billy Fury,Dave Howard Singers,Howard Devoto,Gary Glitter,Test

Department,Steel Pulse,

Johnny Thunders,The The,John Cale,Gene Vincent,Big Black,Marc And The

Mambas,Bogshed, Big Flame,Fad Gadget,

Robert Rental,Sex Gang Children,Barbara,Holger Hiller,Der Plan, World

Domination Enterprise, 13th Floor Elevators,

Kluster,Rema Rema etc......

Q. are you interested in the current us presidential election race?

thoughts?

A. Politics is for people who can't run their own lives.

Q. the most recent track you did w/ peter sutton 'chaos' on that dust

science comp explores the strings/ classical music side of things in a

dancefloor friendly context, can we expect more of this? it is an

incredible track.

A. Well it's a really old track from '97. It was recorded "live" in the

back room of the legendary "ORBIT" club on New

Years Eve 1997/98. I really do like it too, it's quite unlike anything we

had done before or since.

Q. what in your discography are you most proud of?

A. I think it's a really odd collection of Tracks/12"s /Albums , but i

stand by all of it.

Q. you have a reputation as being one of the most underground people in

the world of techno. any comment on this?

A. Just as Lead is a parody of Gold and Coitus is a parody of

Crime ....... Regis is a parody of Underground

Q. a lot of the titles for you tracks mix wry humor with malevolence.

reminds me of sarcastic punk rock of the 80's. comments? thoughts?

A. Well i feel them to be considered and authentic . I have never been

anything other than honest and sincere in my work. I always found

due to the lack of narrative within dance music i found a need to

create my

own world around each release.

Q. i notice you do a whole lot of collaborative work. do you find that

making music with another person gets your creativity flowing in a way

that solo production does not?

A. I don't really collaborate that much. I have only ever worked ( in a

studio sense ) with the same core people that i

have always worked with.I thrive off different situations/set

ups/studios/working methods .

Q. who is your favorite philosopher?

A. Brain Clough.

kao shto vidite karl bash voli da tripuje ljude i jako dobro to radi. nije ni chudo shto se gomila dijechice, ukljuchujuci i mene, lozhi na sve shto ovaj lik uradi.

pre neki dan sam dobio pijesmicu novu njegovu koja je totalno u bubblegum pop fazonu (neshto kao chick habit). ne mogu da izbacim traku iz glave od kako sam je chuo :)

[fatboy]

esi spakovo ovo za RUSH mozda? ako nisi spakuj i salji onoj sisici bolketu

[Latino ^ Beat]

jebo si mu kevu matori, svaka cast

[Corey]

ludače :) svaka čast

[LaG]

moji radovi nisu svi ind ali nadje se poneka traka

www.myspace.com/misterlag (dowd i remix freemasonsa)

www.myspace.com/sinep667 (deca bozhija)

zatim tu je chika kog sam zaboravio u prvobitnom tekstu a umetnichko ime mu je smear. chovek je uvek bio u nekom mraku najmrklijem i pre se mnogo lozhio na hardkor (ali jako chudne varijante istog i ep-eve takve zike mozhete naci na njegovom blogu: http://andomorph.blogspot.com/ )

smear je irac i zajedno sa drugom (patrick walker) je izdao nedavno dve ploche kao forward strategy group. to je neka minimal tehno varijanta industriala i sada je chika smear mnogo voljen od strane surgeona i stalno mu se pojavljuje u setovima

http://www.myspace.com/smeartest

http://www.myspace.com/forwardstrategygrouprecs

http://www.myspace.com/avx23

postoji jedna ekipa iz nemachke koja isto radi neke industrial bolesti. label se zove zhark a zapocheli su ga kareem i hecate. razishli su se posle drugog izdanja i kareemov label se zove "zhark records" a hecatin "zhark international"

kareem radi neverovatno bolesne trekove i ima jako dobar i mrtav lajv. pored toga radi i hip hop i josh ne znam shta sve. u njegovoj ekipi je i huren koji ima neshto manje tehnoidni pristup ali je i dalje prebolesno.

hecate je riba koja se odprilike posvadja sa svakim sa kime je stigla. ribu lozhi da nervira ljude (nas dvoje bi smo se sigurno super proveli zajedno) i uglavnom je niko ne voli. prichao mi je smear (koji radi hardcore i breakcore kao element abuse) da je neka kompilacija, na kojoj su izmedju ostalog on i hecate trebali da izdaju, odlozhena dve godine jer je riba nekako uspela toliko da iznervira gazdu lejbla da je ovaj uzeo i spalio sve diskove i ploche jer nije hteo da mu ona bude na kompilaciji, pa je lejbl upao u neki debeli minus (spaljena verzija: http://www.discogs.com/release/561714 nova verzija: http://www.discogs.com/release/1089536).

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=108363&...ighlight=108380 kareem (poslushajte ceo "run" npr)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ybj1VvGzEw...PL&index=24 hecate

tu je zatim lik koji nije toliko u tehnu mada je relativno nedavno milom/silom uveden u tehno vode tako shto je uradio remix za surgeona. lik zapravo radi SVE ali najvishe se njegov zvuk mozhe nazvati dabstepom. u pitanju je disinvectant, momak iz birmingema. ono shto se meni kod njega jako svidja je to shto 1. chovek ima jako dobro razradjenu prichu oko svoje muzike (u smislu dizajn, pricha itd) i 2. nikome se ne uvlachi u dupe nego radi muziku jer mu se radi (shto je nekarakteristichno za muzichare i djeve, a pogotovo za tehnashe tehnashe jer, da malo parafraziram mudrog voidlossa, "techno is a mountain of shit, and everybody is stepping over each other tryin to be the king of the shit hill")

http://www.myspace.com/disinvectant

http://www.myspace.com/jowonioproductions

http://www.myspace.com/theeggplanet

spot koji je napravio sa drugarima - pogledati obavezno

ne znam kako sam uspeo da pomenem takaaki itoha proshli put a da ne pomenem go hiyamu

hiyama je japanac koji radi jako jako jako dobar offbeat. svi ga lately prozivaju za produkciju (sve je toliko prekompresovano i glasno da je zaista teshko slushati mu trake), ali stvarno dobre ideje i osecaj za gruv ima pa mu se da oprostiti jadan rms :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li-U5BJ-cpY...feature=related

chesto nastupa zajedno sa itohom kao DUALTEK

tu je i kuniaki takenaga (isto japanac) koji je manje dobar muzichar i producent od hiyame (imho) ali je vredan pazhnje

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1391338-02-01-02.mp3

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1374233-02-01-03.mp3

jako je bio dobar kada je doshao na onaj darkerski forum gde su ga pitali neki ljudi shto mu je tako glasno i predistorzirano sve pa je on uzeo da kuka kako u susednoj sobi spava bratovo dete i onda on ne mozhe da producira kako treba. eto shto su muke industrial tehno umetnika!

tu je i shvedjanin teemu t http://www.myspace.com/teemut on radi neke laid back soundscapey tehno trekove pa povremeno i ind varijantu zabode.

cyp http://www.myspace.com/cypproject cheh koji radi offbeaty industrial trake

black smith craft http://www.myspace.com/alphaground matori francuz koji vodi radio emisiju bside na livesets

ben gibson http://www.myspace.com/bengibsonmusic

arrestar http://www.myspace.com/arrestar

dialect http://www.myspace.com/darkdialect cheh koji sve bolje i bolje radi muziku i skoncentrisan je samo na industrial techno

ima josh mnogo nekih likova koji su izdali po par plocha dobrih trekova ali sam se trudio da navedem samo aktivne producente da ne bih mnogo smarao.

free net lejblova koji izdaju ovu ziku ima nekoliko a pomenio bih samo meni najmilije:

http://www.myspace.com/shadowd1str1ct ovo vodi izvesni cheh po imenu vlasta. bavi se i organizovanjem zhurki a inache je programer

http://www.myspace.com/anterasa ovo vodi chika koji sebe naziva "rednox". ne radi muziku, koliko znam ni ne organizuje zhurkice ali radi predobre mixeve, jako dobro promovishe ovaj lejbl i svako izdanje je stvarno super. i za ovaj lejbl i za shadowdistrict mastering radi voidloss

http://www.myspace.com/biolabel mozhda najbolji tehno free net-label za koji znam. koliko znam vodi ga schrauff, chika iz ljubljane koji uredjuje program u legendarnom klubu k4. mislim da za ovo chudo mastering radi luka baumann.

evo nekih mixeva:

http://rapidshare.com/files/138294191/Lag_...l_Roll.mp3.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9YJORSFN surgeon - food for thought

http://www.thearchiver.net/data/audio/deaf...iesdeaf2008.mp3

http://jeroenliebregts.com/sets/AAR_MixSer...4_Go_Hiyama.mp3

http://www.psnz.net/arhiva/Luka_Baumann_-_...e_23.2.2005.zip - ovo mi je mozhda omiljeni ind mix ikada. radjen je u abletonu i posle prve trecine upadne u 10 min drounova i bolesti pa se posle vrati u tehno..

http://www.psnz.net/arhiva/Grovskopa%20-%20Re-Emerging.zip

http://www.psnz.net/arhiva/mimi%20-%20Chri...0(18.12.06).rar

mimi je jedan od najboljih djeva u okolini (iz zagreba je lik). jedini drugi za koje znam da su toliko dobri na tri gramofona su mozhda inigo kennedy i dundov. istina ovo je mix u abletonu i totalno je chudan ali lako cete naci njegove gramofonske tehno mixeve http://www.myspace.com/mihaelkosec

za josh mixeva Emergence records ekipe posetite http://www.psnz.net/arhiva/

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=42411120 - VIDEO toky (rumenige) & dj boss. toky je ovaj sa plavom kosicom. lik je vechno pijan, a ideja o idealnom zhivotu mu se svodi na "fat beats, alcohol and vaginas" :).

i za kraj prva ind tehno traka koju sam ikada chuo i koja me i dan danas vozi najstrashnije. "prva ljubav zaborava nema"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxR8223QqE nitzer ebb - murderous (phil kieran remix)

[gruja]

jbt murderous je like medju najtrekovima ikad!

a i Phil Kieran je lud,on je isto odradio rmx agorijine la onzieme marche koja je takodje jedna od najlepsih trekova ikad.

[nikita_]

Bravo Laze.

[f4ts0]

wall of txet wasnt reed!

[LaG]

malo o konceptu industrial muzike, poshto sam skontao da mnogo ljudi misli da industrial = mrak i JAO JAO KAO DA JE IZ FABRIKE SVE SNIMANO. industrial nije zhanr (te samim tim nema svoj "zvuk") nego koncept i zove se po "industrial records", labelu koji su osnovali prvi industrial bend - throbbing gristle i sam naziv "industrial" ima vishe veze sa samim pojmom industrije (bilo muzichke ili uopshte) nego sa fabrikama i sl. slichna stvar se desila sa IDM-om koji je isto tako pristup muzici a ne neki zvuk koji definishe zhanr, tako da idm isto mozhe biti i tehno i haus i dnb i ambiental, ali je pristup i nachin izvedbe bitan (primer je recimo autechreov Anti EP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_EP ili gantz graf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gantz_Graf)

iskreno, nisam najsigurniji ko je tu glava cele operacije, ali neshto mi se chini da genesis p-orridge u pitanju. piter za muziku, a genesis za filozofiju i haludzhe. koliko znam on je pisao sve lirikse za throbbing gristle i psyche tv radove.

jako interesantan lik koji je bio zaljubljen u c.c. newby (chlanica throbbing gristle-a) pa je promenio pol da bi joj se u potpunosti kao bice priblizhio, tj njih dvoje "sada chine jedno" (or so he says).

Leaders are not essential, we are TAUGHT to believe we need them, that we are not able to assume responsibility for ourselves. Lies created leaders, lies perpetuate leaders, lies destroy joy and creativity and hope. There are NO LIES on these records, no one here is a leader. We assume full responsibility for ourselves. We will not be deflected from our destiny. OUR LIFE.

There is currently a trend back towards total control and safety in the record and music industry. Groups are styled, hyped and successful before they even release a record. Old outlaws and thinkers are opting for security, comfortable records that apply radical discoveries to banal musical ends. Show business and its inherited goals and justifications are triumphant again. The public is seduced and cheated by emptiness packaged alluringly in cheap tinsel. Fear is the Government once more. On this record are people who were not afraid to think, did not avoid risks. People of all ages are here, from 16 years old to 70 years old. Truth and hope have no boundaries, no set style, they are implicit most clearly in the way you choose to live. The title of the last record issued by industrial tells the rest. "Nothing here now but the recordings."

Or perhaps there is...

koga zanima malo vishe o ovom chiki neka pogleda ovo chudo

Industrial Records began as an investigation. The 4 members of Throbbing Gristle wanted to investigate to what extent you could mutate and collage sound, present complex non entertaining noises to a popular culture situation and convince and convert. We wanted to re-invest Rock music with content, motivation and risk. Our records were documents of attitudes and experiences and observations by us and other determinedly individual outsiders. Fashion was an enemy, style irrelevant.

We wanted to also investigate music as a Business phenomenon and propose models for entirely new and innovative modes of commercial operation. A parody and an improvement. Industrial Records was founded before any of thee better known of the English Independents and was at its close the 3rd largest, yet the most elusive. We wanted to make music and records more effective and relevant to our Industrial society, and we wanted to make business more efficient and creative as well. Industrial Records Limited was born. Named as the most unromantic yet appropriate title we could envisage. Big records companies produce records like cars; we are connected to a contemporary social situation, not a blues orientated past style; we work hard for what we want, we are industrious; we parody and challenge large industrial companies and their debasing ethics and depersonalisation; we work in an old factory; industrial labour is slavery, destructive, a redundant institution so we call it the Death Factory. Music From The Death Factory, from the world, from life. Records in English also mean files, documents, as collected by Government agencies, employers, schools and police forces. Our Records are a combination of files on our relationship with the world and a Newspaper without censorship. Monte Cazazza suggested our business slogan should be INDUSTRIAL MUSIC FOR INDUSTRIAL PEOPLE. You Get what you deserve. Or do you? Well, from the people with a vested interest in controlling and guiding society to follow their recommendations as to what attitudes you should have, what motivations should govern your bebaviour and what goals you should be satisfied with, you DO NOT get what you deserve. You get what you are given, and what you are given is primarily conditioning that pushes you towards blind acceptance, wasted labour, frustrated relationships and a vast sense of hopelessness. We are trained to feel we are not responsible or in control of our society and world so that we will continue to let "Leaders" look after us like parents with retarded children.

http://www.brainwashed.com/tg/industrial.html

[faq2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS6FV9wF9hg

ova ver mi bolja,berlin?

btw odlicna je ova stvar reeko - bad day :)

[LaG]

reeko je svojevremeno bio cale. sad smrducka mada povremeno nabode neku do jaja traku :)

[Dreadlord]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrqIfs19dDY

Slusham ovo ceo dan (Surgeon - Shaper Of The Unknown) - koje pesme najvishe liche na ovo, GIEF MOAR PLOX!!!

[LaG]

skini ceo screw the roses ep

zatim emergence 11 (to je reeko), emergence pet (isto reeko), emergence shest (tuomas rantanen), hello oslo od surgeona (tu je u jednoj traci objedinjeno sve sa screw the roses). mozhda ti se i force + form svidi, poslushaj ceo album/shta li je vec.

[Dreadlord]

skini ceo screw the roses ep

zatim emergence 11 (to je reeko), emergence pet (isto reeko), emergence shest (tuomas rantanen), hello oslo od surgeona (tu je u jednoj traci objedinjeno sve sa screw the roses). mozhda ti se i force + form svidi, poslushaj ceo album/shta li je vec.

A si dao linkove - ako jesi koji je od onih? Ili da torrentiram?

[LaG]

nisam

slsknet.org

[Sajro]

volim ovog laga, em je car em slusha dobru muziku! <3

[RaveN]

i lep je!

[voodoo_]

mada je ponekad neprijatan

[VELIKI KURAC]

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Edited November 25, 2021 by VELIKI KURAC