[BMF]Psycho Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Kreno sam UD maga pa bih zamolio za par saveta od isqsnih igraca. Resio sam da idem pure fire spec do lvl 70, jer je najbolji dmg i super je. E sad, ako neko zna tacno na sta da potrosim poene bio bih zaista zahvalan. Nalazio sam nesto po netu ali nije delovalo bas ok. Takodje bih cenio i tabelu sa talentima za najboljeg pvp maga. Quote "A forgotten virtue like honesty is worth at least twenty credits." -JC Denton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 arcane za 5men instancea dok se ne nabaci gear frost je za grind i lvling dobar a fire za end game pve zbog maximalnog dmg-a ili izberi sam sta god ti se vise svidja da igras ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uBAH Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 frost mage = pro mage fire mage = noob mage Quote Pita Nemanja Vidic Fergusaona : Sefe jel mogu da igram u subotu? Ne znam Nemanja Vidicu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlada92 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 uBAH = fire mage ? :) Quote -Ukoliko neka devojka sedi negde sama NIKADA joj nemojte prici, sesti pored nje i izvaditi digitron i pitati je jel zna da racuna, ona kaze da zna, i reci "racunaj da cu te jebati" (osoba cija je ovo fora ima 30 godina i NIKADA nije imao devojku koja ima sve zube) ▲ ▲ ▲ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kole Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 maki brate ako igrash sa bokijem ghajem pitaj tamo na haumi na nashem kanalu ima magova da ti ljudi objashnjavaju dok si online... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/7ETPOC Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 frost mage = pro mage fire mage = noob mage e ubicu burazera, dodjem jednom u mesec dana nesto da napisem i pisem na njegovo ime .... Quote i tako .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 bravo pohvali se da nemas veze sa zivotom ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Simplicirati stvari do te mere je debilno . Opet pak ulaziti u neku ozbiljniju raspravu sa ovakvom ekipom nema nikakve svrhe a niti ikakvih benificija u tome ima za mene . Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BMF]Psycho Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 zanimljivo da jos niko nije odgovorio na moje pitanje niti mi dao tabele. a bas sam mislio da ce neko znati da mi kaze... Quote "A forgotten virtue like honesty is worth at least twenty credits." -JC Denton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melkor Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Eek Maki, kada si promenio nick? Elem, poshto vidim da retosi nece lepo da odgovore, onda cu ja nub koji nikada nije igrao maga morati da te udostojim odgovora. Poshto si rekao da ti se fire svidja, evo ti jedan lvling build i jedan pvp build: lvling build Pvp build Ima boljih buildova i za lvlovanje i za pvp, ali poshto si rekao da volish fire, to bi trebalo da je to. Quote Droga je smrt, bavite se sportom. "Whatever you are, be a good one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BMF]Psycho Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) hvala bokulence *kiss* a jel bi mogo da postavis i najbolji pvp build? znam da je to valjda frost/arcane al nemam pojma tacno kako. btw chekiraj PM sto sam ti poslao jos pre par dana. ;) Edited March 31, 2007 by bionic.man Quote "A forgotten virtue like honesty is worth at least twenty credits." -JC Denton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melkor Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Frost Arcane/Frost Quote Droga je smrt, bavite se sportom. "Whatever you are, be a good one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milani Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Igram Maga 2 god...nemam alta (niti ću) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajon Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 odes neki 31fire / 30 frost build za pvp, kad s tim naucis da igras kako treba, mozes da biras kasnije :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 @Milani ... ne pricaj netachne cinjenice ... Arcane = najvishi dps u igri ... ako treba ti velik dps ides u arcane Fire = Najveci dmg done ... dakle fire uvek pravi vishe dmga na duze staze ... tj pravo dps stablo . Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zver Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Sto se mog lvling tice sa magom ovako: 1-40 lvl fire 40-60 full frost kao i pre BC raidovi od 61-70 za lvling specovo sam 41/20/0 vise za probu a i dobro mi je doslo protiv gankera prilikom lvlovanja, jer je vise pvp spec i ubi 1 metu brzo. Pre nekih 10ak dana sam presao na 2/59/0 najvise da bih video razliku u dmg i da malo isprobam Dragon's Breath i Blazin speed. Zapisao sam i base dmg i crit pre i posle respeca. Arcane stablo daje oko ~80 baznog dmg vise i oko +1300 int (onih 15% je vise oko 12% bonusa u intelectu kroz talenat), dok fire stablo daje oko 6% vise fire crit. Mada ovo oko dmg bas i nije tako lako racunati jer improved scorch i 10% veci dmg kod meta ispod 20% hp dosta menjaju stvar. Na kraju mi nije zao sto sam se respec jer imam mnogo veci crit, dmg je gotovo isti, improved scorch boostuje dmg i lockovima u raidu, a vise mi se svidja da koristim dragon's breath svakih 20 sec nego PoM pyro svaka 3 min (doduse nedostaju mi ti crit po 4500-5000 hp). Inace da napomenem da sam sa arcane stablom imao isti frost dmg kao i kad sam bio full frost. Quote So when you fall to the ground, And finally get back to reality, and no one else is around, So tell me how does it feel to be the enemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoL Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 moj build od kako je izasao TBC i ne menjam ga :D http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=k0xVf0fzxIziZxgMzf00o 40arcane/21 fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnZbB Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 stvarno ne znam sta je fora, 90% mageova ide 40 u arcane, ostalo u fire... alergicna sam na arcane/fire mageove... :D kod mene je 10 u arcane (zbog clear casta), ostalo frost... :) Quote Out of reasons to charm you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1Nt Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 vidi ovu... odakle si ti ispala ? : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoL Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 aj sto se pojavila niotkuda.. nego sto je potvrdila imba talente date by ja :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabre Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 10/48/3 naj pve dmg 33/28/0 u test fazi atm videcemo na magtheridonu kako radi u praksi veceraske Quote T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoL Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 zar ti ode u mage-ve... koliko se secam igrao si rogue-a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabre Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 ako se to odnosi na mene ,pomesao si me sa nekim :) samo maga sam igrao :) roga od dzokera ponekad i da 10/48/3 > 33/28 spit,sabijem adds dps ali posle na bosu prodaje treba mi bar ~13 hit da bi 33/28 radio kako treba Quote T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milani Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 @Milani ... ne pricaj netachne cinjenice ... Arcane = najvishi dps u igri ... ako treba ti velik dps ides u arcane Fire = Najveci dmg done ... dakle fire uvek pravi vishe dmga na duze staze ... tj pravo dps stablo . Lol ...... what to say else....nabzoru jedan... vi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Igrao bi vishe kada bi mogao da igramo 25 sati dnevno . Nije subjektivno nista ... TO su tacni matematicki proracuni ... Ako budes se malo zagledao videces da arcane power nikad ne povecava dmg done nego cist dps ... je povecava i mana cost sto naravno povecava dmg , ali to je samo dmg u tom momentu koji bi ti od zadate mane vec negde kasnije napravio ... Sobzirom da je mana limited source , dolazimo do zakljucka da je arcane power dizaniran u smislu povecanja dpsa a ne dmg done ... sto dalje dolazimo do zakljucka da je njegova koristnost u pve zanemarljiva ... dakle moze biti koristan samo na fajtovima tipa huhuran gde treba da se brzo iznjukuje boss kada udje u enrage fazu , medjutim od ubacivanja molten furyja , cak i taj pve askpekt arcane dmg dona je inisten ... cineci ga cisto pvp spekom ... aka 3 minute mage . Kada ga uporedis sa combustion koji povecava actoualy cist crtiical shansu i pomaze ti da nabijes 5 ignitova stack kombinovan sa cistim povecanjima + dmg + dmg i josh + dmg ... cak i talent fire power daje vishe nego arcane power dmga ... jer je to konstantan dmg bez utroska mane ... Jer kada povecavas dmg ako razmislis logicki povecavas i mana efficency tj ... ukupand dmg / per mana . Arcane mind takodje je jako jako noob spell . Da bi ovaj spell postao efikasan moras da imash bar 1000 intlecta da bi dobio 250 spell dmga i da bi uostvari postao nesto koristan ... medjutim u trenutnku kada ti u igri budes imao 1000 intlecta imaces verovatno i 1500 ++ spell dmga tako da ce tih 250 spell dmga da bude opet pak zanemarljivo u odnosu jer to je tek mali dodatak suvog spell dmga koji se ne scaluje vishe nisacim na vec veliku kolicnu spell dmga i opet bi bolje dosli na sve to cisti % povecanje talenti iz firea . Dakle ja se izvinjavam sto nisam obrazlozio detaljno zasto je fire pve dmg > arcane pve dmg u bilo koje doba dana i noci i ovaj build sto je postovao Jabre 10/48/3 jeste ubedljivo najbolji pve dmg done build . To naravno mozes i da provris na armory stranicama najbolji guildova i da vidis da ljudi koji raiduju u tim guildovima svi imaju ovaj build ili varijacije istog . Da li je ovo bilo dovoljno da shvatish kako su stvari koje si napisao netachne i na sta sam morao da reagujem ( svakako u nedovoljnoj meri sam obrazlozio zasto je tako kako je sto je dovelo do zabune , jer sam samo mislio da je fire pve dps opste poznata stvar ) . ako se to odnosi na mene ,pomesao si me sa nekim :) samo maga sam igrao :) roga od dzokera ponekad i da 10/48/3 > 33/28 spit,sabijem adds dps ali posle na bosu prodaje treba mi bar ~13 hit da bi 33/28 radio kako treba Upravo tako . Evo vam ga jedan mage koji zna da igra svoju klasu njega mozete da slushate ( osim ako kaze da sam ja noob , ako to kaze razapnite ga 11111!!!!!! ^^ ) Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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