Veljok Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Imam neke nedoumice u vezi engleskog, odnosno treba da mi kažete da li su mi tačni odgovori.. Pretvaranje rečenica u pasiv, pa ako je neko voljan da pomogne.. Staviću u spoiler, da ne pravim gužvu Where are they holding the interview? Moj odgovor: Where is the interview being held? Does the firm receive payments as planned? Moj: Are payments received as planned? Who must approve the plan? Moj: Who must the plan be approved by? Do they sell flowers here? Moj: Are flowers sold here? Who offered Fred a new job? Moj: Who was a new job offered by? Have you really checked the draft of that memorandum? Moj: Have the draft really been checked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Where is the interview being held by them? Are payments received as planned by the firm? Who must the plan be approved by By whom the plan must be approved? Are flowers sold here by them? Who was a new job offered by By whom was Fred offered a new job? Have the draft of that memorandum really been checked by you? коментар: 1. заборављаш субјекат активне реченице. 2. питања се у књижевном енглеском језику никад не завршавају предлозима. Edited December 25, 2013 by Debeli Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekk Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ispravi to pre nego mohi vidi :D Quote jebote, smorio si sa kukanjem vise :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Sad sam hteo ja to da napisem :) Elem, mozemo na nekom drugom topicu o engleskoj gramatici, ali Debeli oba komentara su ti zapravo pogresna :) Pogotovu sto je mozda bitnije promaseno vreme :) Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 да, не питања, него изјавне реченице се не завршавају предлозима. мај бед. субјекат активне реченице се ставља у пасив, не разумем о чему причаш. е сад, не разумем шта са временима? у последњем није HAVE него HAS. да, да, даље, ARE the flovers being sold here... на брзину сам радио, признајем... и даље не консултујем енглески онлајн грамар. ко хоће да ме покаже незналицом - нека изволи, нека убије време, помоћи ће Инферну, а ја прихватам да будем колатерална штета те користи. Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 the subject of the active sentence becomes the object of the passive sentence (or is dropped) - oduvek bilo i bice, cak je mnogo cesce da se subjekat aktivne recenice izostavlja jer je s njim pasivna recenica cesto stilski rogobatna. Dakle nikako nije greska izostaviti ga. A ovaj komentar za vremena sam se zajebao, nije problem u vremenu, nego u pogresnom obliku pomocnog glagola, jer u poslednjoj recenici treba da bude "has" umesto "have" posto je subjekat postao memorandum koji je trece lice jednine. Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 зависи од наглашавања. некад и јесте поента да се субјекат активне реченице нагласи пасивном реченицом. Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 otprilike jedini savet koji su meni dali oko pasiva, kada sam prešao sa "prebaci ove rečenice u indirektni govor" na malo viši nivo engleskog, bio je: nemoj koristiti pasiv. i stvarno, kad pogledate po ozbiljnijim publikacijama i blogovima, jako se malo koristi. naši profesori ga forsiraju jer im je lako da sastavljaju i ocenjuju testove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ja mislim da u Americi ljudi za pasiv znaju koliko da su culi o tome u skoli, niko ziv ne koristi. Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aLti Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 @Debeli - prva recenica ti je OK. U drugoj moras da dodas being pre received. U trecoj must treba da se stavi pre the plan. Cetvrta ti je OK. Peta ti je isto pogresna, treba da ide: By whom was a new job offered to Fred? (ne zaboravi da objekat u aktivu postaje subjekat u pasivu, a ti si ga zadrzao kao objekat). Sestu si i sam ispravio :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veljok Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Being bi trebalo da se doda ako je pitanje glasilo "Is the firm receiving payments as planned?" jer se 'being' stavlja kad je aktivna rečenica/pitanje u present continuousu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Nema tu mnogo filozofije, glagol to be ide u onom vremenu u kome je aktivna recenica, ako je aktivna recenica present continuous onda i to be ide tako, tj ide being. Posto je ovde aktivna recenica present simple, onda je i to be isto tako. Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debeli Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 @Debeli - prva recenica ti je OK. U drugoj moras da dodas being pre received. U trecoj must treba da se stavi pre the plan. Cetvrta ti je OK. Peta ti je isto pogresna, treba da ide: By whom was a new job offered to Fred? (ne zaboravi da objekat u aktivu postaje subjekat u pasivu, a ti si ga zadrzao kao objekat). Sestu si i sam ispravio :) za drugu ti je odgovorio Inferno treća: u pravu si. peta: u pravu si. Quote MORTALIS HOMO AURA PER KHARONE SERVAStyle over subsistenceCrown of Light. Keeper of The Yoda Chamber. I&I, Righteous Army of One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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