RaveN Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 dakle treba mi konfiguracija do 30k sta mislite o ovome http://www.gigatronshop.com/products/show_product/17142/2 preporucite nesto hvala dudu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dNte Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Konfa je vise nego okej za te pare al realno mogao bi naci jako bolje polovne kompove za iste pare. Quote infidel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 na tih 30k dodas jos 10k i kupis....... G-Force GTX295 Quote Унутра је сигурно читава експлозија радости и магије! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 ja bih svakako otisao na www.neka_domacinska_firma.rs i sklopio masinu koju mi vudu ili ja ili neko preporuci. Sigurno te nece lagati/uvaliti/smarati/odugovlaciti sa reklamacijama uzmi neki c2d, 2 GB rama (ili 4 ako ces metati 64bit operativni - zgrozim se kad vidim konfe sa 4 GB i krs cpu i 32 bita OS) HDD za pr0n (640, 1 tb svejedno) neku grafulju oko 90 ojra i vozi. 5300 c2d cpu gigabyte ga-ga41mes2h 2*1 GB ddr2 radeon 4670 dwdrw case neko LC sa 500 w napajanjem, izadje oko 34000 izadje te 20-30 vise od AKCIJA SHOK cena ponude, al bar si uzeo po svojoj meri od firme koja se ne bavi AKCIJA SHOK forama praznjenja lagera. Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 ja bih svakako otisao na www.neka_domacinska_firma.rs i sklopio masinu koju mi vudu ili ja ili neko preporuci. Sigurno te nece lagati/uvaliti/smarati/odugovlaciti sa reklamacijama uzmi neki c2d, 2 GB rama (ili 4 ako ces metati 64bit operativni - zgrozim se kad vidim konfe sa 4 GB i krs cpu i 32 bita OS) HDD za pr0n (640, 1 tb svejedno) neku grafulju oko 90 ojra i vozi. 5300 c2d cpu gigabyte ga-ga41mes2h 2*1 GB ddr2 radeon 4670 dwdrw case neko LC sa 500 w napajanjem, izadje oko 34000 izadje te 20-30 vise od AKCIJA SHOK cena ponude, al bar si uzeo po svojoj meri od firme koja se ne bavi AKCIJA SHOK forama praznjenja lagera. A nego sta da kupuju 3,5gb rama? 7x512? ili 1x2gb+1x1gb+1x512m? Ajde igore idi iskenjaj se jos malo. Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerBah Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Nema smisla kupovati 4 giga rama ako vozish 32-bitni OS. edit: nema smisla koristiti 32-bitni OS u 2010. Edited February 19, 2010 by ZerBah Quote А в чем сила, брат? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 ? I dodje sun korisnik i kaze tebi da nema smisla koristiti 32bitni procesor jos 95te godine ... Eto ja furam 32bitni os i 4gb rama i trenutno mi je od 3.668.396 zauzeto 2.4gb. Koliko ja memorije da kupim za svoj 32bitni sistem i kako da je rasporedim? Inace planiram da predjem na win7 i 8gb rama, ali eto cisto za pametnjakovice koji trce pred rudu pitanje cemu 64bitni os ako nekome ne treba vise od tih 3.5gb rama? Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Sta pricas mohi? Dobro znas sta sam hteo da kazem i nemoj sa monom probavati da me lozis i te fore za klince :) Mislim ako tvrdis da 32bitni windows (osim server enteprise edition) vidi 4 gb rama, onda drzim lekcije. Cena po dogovoru, das mi krug 2 na motoru i ja ti objasnim. Inace planiram da predjem na win7 i 8gb rama, ali eto cisto za pametnjakovice koji trce pred rudu pitanje cemu 64bitni os ako nekome ne treba vise od tih 3.5gb rama? Opet oces da se svadjas, covee iskusniji si od zena u redu u maksiju LOL! Koji ces win7 staviti? 32bitni axexex? Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Igore brate, toplomer. Kako, jebeno kako si ti zakljucio da ja tvrdim da 32bitni win vidi 4gb rama? KAKO JEBENO? Vidi 3.5gb kao sto sam gore naveo, a ja sam tebe pitao, ako furas 32bitni os kao sto vecina fura, i ako hoces dual channel mod enejblovan koliko modula od koliko memorije da uzmes? Dva puta 1.5gb modula? 6x512mb? Kako kad prosecna ploca ima 4 slota za memoriju? I po trenutnim i doskorasnjim cenama memorije u cemu je tacno problem furati 4giga na 32bitnom sistemu? Retardirano je furati vise od 4 jer to stvarno nema poente, ali 4gb je najoptimalnije. Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Nije, jako je poskupela memorija. Pa je optimalno furati 12 GB a koristiti 3.5 ako imas para. Ako nemas kao covek koji kupuje komp do 300 eura, bolje uzeti 2 nego 4 a ne koristiti sve. I ne vidi 3.5 nego 3.25 (približno). i bla bla Ili neka matne 2*1 +1*1 kao ja i dobije 3 GB u non interleaved režimu. Mada je i to glupo. Bottom line, i pitanja! Recimo da je memorija jeftina Ja imam 32 bit os i stavim 2*2. Videce se 3.25. Pitam te, kako ce interleaving to videti? Oce li paralelno "preplitati" adrese sa 2 modula? Oce li u svakom slotu videti 3.25/2? ili u jednom 2 a u drugom 1.25? Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ne znam kako ce se preplitati ali to nije ni bila sustina, jer ja nisam pricao sta je jeftinije vec sam prokomentarisao tvoje "zgrozavanje" nad 32bitnim osevima na 4gb konfama. Da ne pominjem sto ako i kad predjes na 64bitni sistem imaces svih 4gb, a ne 10 modula razlicitih velicina.PS: sa pae se vidi 3.5gb ili ti 3.668.396 te se vejstuje 330mb WAU ... Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ne radi PAE na ne-serverskim Windowsima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Nema veze pae sa ovom pričom. Da, zgražavam se nad 4 Gb memorije na 32 bit OS-om, jebiaga imam pravo. Posebno sada kada je 2 GB >4000 dinara. Oko PAE...ne radi on ni na win standard serveru, samo na enterprise i datacenter. S tim sto tu deli memoriju na segmente, bla truc. No odosmo u krajnjost. sa pae se vidi 3.5gb ili ti 3.668.396 te se vejstuje 330mb WAU ... Ne. Sa /PAE se vidi sva memorija, bez pae se ne vidi. I i dalje mislim da je 3.25. Ali nebitno, reki odakle ti pare za komp!! Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Broj vidljive memorije direktno zavisi od kontrolera na ploči, jer se njihov adresni prostor mapira u sistemski ram. Na bogatijim pločama sa mnogo PCIe slotova i USB 3.0 i SATA 6G kontrolerima RAM ode i na ispod 3 GB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 vudu drug Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaveN Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 dudu je drug al buraz je otiso da pazari ovaj iz gigatrona... ionako mu treba samo za net,hon,film,msn :d ali hvala sto ste odmerili pise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Ne radi PAE na ne-serverskim Windowsima. Nema veze pae sa ovom pričom. Da, zgražavam se nad 4 Gb memorije na 32 bit OS-om, jebiaga imam pravo. Posebno sada kada je 2 GB >4000 dinara. Oko PAE...ne radi on ni na win standard serveru, samo na enterprise i datacenter. S tim sto tu deli memoriju na segmente, bla truc. No odosmo u krajnjost. Ne. Sa /PAE se vidi sva memorija, bez pae se ne vidi. I i dalje mislim da je 3.25. Ali nebitno, reki odakle ti pare za komp!! Eo mali kvot sa wikija o pae-u Microsoft Windows PAE is supported in the following releases of Microsoft Windows:[7][9][10] Itanium versions of these operating systems if they exist do not use PAE because the Itanium does not need PAE.Version Maximum Physical Memory - RAM (GB) Windows 2000 Professional, Server 4 Windows 2000 Advanced Server 8 Windows 2000 Datacenter 32 Windows XP Starter 0.5 Windows XP Home & Media Center 4 Windows XP Professional (32-bit) 4 Windows XP Professional (64-bit) 32 Windows Server 2003 Web 2 Windows Server 2003 Standard, Small Business/Home, Storage 4 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Storage 8 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise 32 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise R2/SP1, Datacenter 64 Windows Server 2003 Datacenter R2 128 Windows Vista Starter 1 Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Ultimate, Enterprise (32-bit) 4 Windows Vista Home Basic (64-bit) 8 Windows Vista Home Premium (64-bit) 16 Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, Ultimate (64-bit) 128 Windows Server 2008 Standard, Web 4 Windows Server 2008 Enterprise, Datacenter 64 Windows 7 Starter 2 Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate (32-bit) 4 Windows 7 Home Basic (64-bit) 8 Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) 16 Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate (64-bit) 192 A ovo je samo za win, bsd i lin odavno furaju pae uz difoltne kernele. I ponovicu opet, za nekoga ko koristi 32bitni os, koliko modula od koliko memorije za maximalni uzitak? Zgrozeni covece?PS: uopste se ne lozim niti razumem u hardver, ali mi je fascinantno koliko se lozite na hw. a lupetate, da ja ovako neuk fejspalmujem. Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 wikipedija, izvor tacnih informacija.3 modula od po 1GB Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaveN Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 :[7][9][10] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 wikipedija, izvor tacnih informacija. 3 modula od po 1GB I cime osporavas tacno taj clanak na wikiju? Ovo nije clanak o atentatu na vuka na autoputu, ovo je strucni clanak. Ali onda mi fali 600 mega. Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladica^.^ Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 wikipedija, izvor tacnih informacija. 3 modula od po 1GB Wiki i Britanika imaju podjenak broj grešaka, pa ti vidi sad. :) Inače nisam hteo da ulazim u tu priči i meni treba jedan PC do 30k. :) Quote "This deck of cards is a little frayed around the edges, but then again so am I and I've got fewer suits..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togFU Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 evo, cak je mohi počeo da tone... citira wikipediju... eh... a nekada je likove iz ESET-a nazivao teletabisima, o wikipediji da ne govorimo... zbogom rure :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) Kad se vec pravis pametan i prisecas se tih rasprava valjalo bi da se setis da sam osporavao terminologiju mikrosoft buljasa iz eseta wiki clancima o doticnim terminima. Nego aj ti lepo stap u ruke, po ovce pa na futoske njive ... Edited February 20, 2010 by mohican Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal1mero Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 mohi aj ne seri vise Quote Нема будућности без истине. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Kad se vidimo, nema smisla da smorimo forum. Imas na Mikrosoftu zvanican, malo uzi spisak. http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx A na njemu stoji xp all versions . Da imam zelje pao bih u vatru, jer oni ne rade sa /PAE, provereno mnogo puta. Ali go on, nothing to see there. Nije radila ni vista business 32 bitna bez sp-a, videla je 3.25 GB Jedino sto mogu da kazem je da sam pogresio za /pae i win 2003 std. Moze da vidi 4, ali vise ne. Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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