Silencer Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Blizzard je potvrdio izlazak 2.3 patch-a sledeće nedelje, a Arena Season 3 startuje 20. Novembra. Evo i zvaničnih informacija: While testing continues and a delay could possibly change these dates, we are currently planning to start Season 3 on November 20 once the realms come back up from their weekly maintenance. This means that Season 2 will come to a close when the realms come down for maintenance on November 20. During that maintenance the final standings are taken and the end of season rewards are distributed. The start date for Season 3 is purposefully planned to be one week later than the release of patch 2.3, which is currently scheduled for November 13. We will be closely monitoring the testing of the 2.3 patch, and if it looks like it won’t make the November 13 date, we will announce a delay. With the end of the current season all previous recipients of the end of season titles will have them removed, and the titles will be redistributed for participation in Season 2. A unique armored swift nether drake, visually distinguishable from the Season 1 reward, will be awarded to the top 0.5% of teams. We’ve recently added new requirements for a team to be counted when determining the top 0.5%, which can be found here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...49798359&sid=1 FAQ Q: Can I keep my title from Season 1 even if I haven’t participated in Season 2? A: No, the seasonal titles are intended to be a reward for performance in the previous season. Similar to a sports title or award, it’s handed off or moved to different players/teams as their performance rises or declines throughout the seasons. Q: What happens to my Nether Drake? A: You will keep your Swift Nether Drake, and a new visually distinguishable Swift Nether Drake will be given to the top 0.5% of teams for their efforts in Season 2. Q: So I’ve heard something about items having rating requirements? A: Yes, the Season 3 weapons will have a personal rating requirement of 1850, and the shoulders will have a personal rating requirement of 2000. Q: What is a “Personal Rating”? A: We’re introducing an additional rating system with the start of Season 3 that will only track your personal games played, which you’ll be able to see through the in-game PvP interface. This rating will be used to determine the ability to buy specific items, and also to determine eligibility for the end of season rewards. The personal rating rises and declines using the same formula as the arena team rating, but only in games that you participate in. If you switch teams the rating will be reset to a default 1500. The personal rating is only used for the initial purchase of specific items, and isn't required that you maintain a rating to use them. Q: What happens to the Season 1 and 2 items? A: The Season 2 items will be priced the same as Season 1 is now, and the Season 1 items are moving to the honor system, purchasable with honor points and Battleground marks. Q: What happens to my rating when Season 2 ends? A: Ratings for all teams are reset to the default 1500 for the new season. You still keep your arena points though, they aren’t diminished or removed. Q: When does Season 2 officially end? A: Barring a delay, when the realms come down for maintenance on November 20. Q: How sure are you that 2.3 will make a November 13 release? A: Pretty sure, but there’s always the possibility for a delay. Due to the upcoming holidays any necessary delays to the release of the patch may require us to delay Season 3 into the start of December. We’re trying very hard to avoid that. Q: Why isn’t Season 3 beginning with the release of the patch? A: To help us focus on both a major content patch release, and start of a new season, we’re separating them by one week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencer Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Paladin DPS promene kknp :) Nista vise mi ne treba :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencer Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 A bre Neo si ti negativan prema nama hilerima ;) Pa nema smisla evo zasto :) (malo je offtopic, al ajd) Paladin Heal (Smrdi mu dps) najbolja klasa, ali smori ponekad kad moras da spamujes 2 dugmeta. Priest heal kurac mislim moze :) al on treba da bude > Paladin al nije :) A zato ima dps sto paladin nema :) I dodjemo do balansa ;) Mada ofc uzecu prvo 3 seta od arena 3 za healing Chest, Legs i Head :) I onda sam finish necu da menjam Merc shoulders i Gloves ;) kao i veteran opremu :P Sem sto cu uzeti healing back i Boots, wrist i belt mogu da prodju. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Tako je, ajde sve klase u DPS, kome treba heal. warloci i warriori su najbolji healeri u igri ... da li treba da vas podsecam ? Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurdusami Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Ima smisla, ako hoces DPS, rolaj DPS klasu, a ne heal klasu. (gledajuci iz PvE ugla) Dakle, ne treba da se igraju shadow priestovi i enhancement shamani i feral druidi? Quote Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 enha shamani mogu da prodju samo ako imaju najimba gear u igri feral druidi samo kao tankovi korisni spriestovi su imba za manu u grupi sve ostalo moze da bude za lvlovanje/pvp (solo) holy pale najbolji healeri u igri i sada ce 50% nubova da bude ret zbog novih talenata ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 (edited) enh shaman = bolestan baff za mele grupu i ok dmg sam po sebi elemental shaman = dobar buff za caster grupu i dobar dmg feral druid = odlican tenk + odlican baf za mele grupu, bolji agro gain i rage gain od wara, nedostatak shilda parija i bloka nadoknadjuje capovanjem redukcije i dodgeom, u slucaju da nema potrebe za dva tenka i u raidu ima prot wara onda pristojan dmg u maci recimo bolji od hanta a sa ostalima se juri u zavisnosti od opreme balance druid = odlican baff za kastere, fin dmg moze da se juri sa frost magom prot pala = nezamenjiv za tenkovanje xy trasheva i ok za neko ot-ovanje reta za sad beskoristan makar po meni za shadow prista je vetj recheno ... Sve je samo pitanje skilla igraca i raidleadera da formira grupe u zavisnosti od speka/klase. Dani holy pristova, resto druida, resto shamana, i holy pala su proshli sa dolaskom tbc-a Jedino jadni warovi smrde kao protovi u pve-u :P Edited November 7, 2007 by mohican Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 nihilum najvise koristi resto shamane za healing samo otvorite armory i vidicete da imaju fazon 10 resto shamana sa t6 gearom jer je chain heal bolestan heal na vise ljudi u isto vreme a mogu da spamuju non stop i tu je naravno paladin koji spamuje tenka beskonacno ako nihilum gresi onda jbg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Prvo nihilum je oldskul i fura oldskul setupe. Drugo rekao sam da se dostize efikasnost i sa dps spekovanim hibridima ako se koriste kako treba tj ako se prave designated grupe sa njima zbog bafa, a ne da je to imba bolje od standardnog setup-a Trece isti taj nihilum fura feral druida kao dps (rulah) Chetvrto ne zanimam se tolko za nihilum da im pratim spekove i raidsastave al kapiram da ima jos izuzetaka Sve u svemu poenta je u raznovrsnosti koju su dozvolili tbc-om za hibridne klase. Znachi mozhe se odigrati endgejm sada sa enh shamijem umesto roga i da ne budesh uopshte nerfovan jer ce dps tog shamana + dps od bafa koji ce dati rogovima nadomestiti i mozda premashiti razliku do dpsa roga koji bi ishao umesto njega. Quote OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 (edited) l2read. l2edit posts lol Prvo nihilum je oldskul i fura oldskul setupe. Drugo rekao sam da se dostize efikasnost i sa dps spekovanim hibridima ako se koriste kako treba tj ako se prave designated grupe sa njima zbog bafa, a ne da je to imba bolje od standardnog setup-a Trece isti taj nihilum fura feral druida kao dps (rulah) Chetvrto ne zanimam se tolko za nihilum da im pratim spekove i raidsastave al kapiram da ima jos izuzetaka Sve u svemu poenta je u raznovrsnosti koju su dozvolili tbc-om za hibridne klase. Znachi mozhe se odigrati endgejm sada sa enh shamijem umesto roga i da ne budesh uopshte nerfovan jer ce dps tog shamana + dps od bafa koji ce dati rogovima nadomestiti i mozda premashiti razliku do dpsa roga koji bi ishao umesto njega. Produhovljeni i svetlom obasjan mohi se vraca iz dugogodishnje meditacije na tibetu kao novi covek ... drugi covek ... jachi , snazniji i pametniji. I concur ... enha shamani mogu da prodju samo ako imaju najimba gear u igri feral druidi samo kao tankovi korisni spriestovi su imba za manu u grupi sve ostalo moze da bude za lvlovanje/pvp (solo) holy pale najbolji healeri u igri i sada ce 50% nubova da bude ret zbog novih talenata ... Holy paladin je najmanje fleksibilan i generalno naloshiji spec u igri za healovanje od svih klasa , sto opet ne znachi da je losh healer. Da udjem u neke dublje rasprave nema potrebe jer znam da ne znash sta pricas. Drugo prot pala ce biti vrlo dobar kao main tank od sledeceg patcha. Generalno napravili su prilicno dobar postao sa protection stablom i nemam sta tu da zamerim , agro generacija , agro tankovanje , imace vishe stamine nego warrior malo manje avoidance , bolji ce biti za bosove koji biju brzo ( ilidan zbog sheara recimo pala nikada ne sme da dobije shear ) dok war ce naravno imati progress skilove uvek aka shield wall last stand gde pala ima opet pak ardend defender koji je ok talent ali ne moze da se meri sa istima. Mada bice imba sozbirom da su sredili jedini problem paladina koji je ostao a to je stamina :D. Trece retri paladin je verovatno hibrid koji donosi najvishe buffova za raid. Ono sto mene razocharava sto su od tog stabla koje je zamishljeno kao pvp stablo ( kao arms kod warriora ) napravili vrlo dobro pve stablo a pvp nisu dovoljno buffovali ( jer kao shaman se oslanja na burst dmg koji resiliance totalno cini unistava / ap pom mage anyone ? lol ). Pve wise osrednje gearovan paladin moze opusteno da ide 1100 dps a blood elf pala sa istom opremom i do 1250 dps i uz to dajuci raidu wisdom judgment koji je bolji od bilo kod shadow priesta sto se tiche koliko mane vraca ( celom dps raidu ) , light koji nije dobar kao sto je bio ali nije no losh i naravno 3% critical na melee ranged i spell za ceo raid sto je opet imba samo po sebi. Sada najveci problem je bio sto je pala bio threat capovan .... jednostavno ne smesh da koristis sve cdove jer ces da uzmes agro ... sada je to sredjeno tako da je sasvim ok za raid. Po meni bolji od enhancement shamana cak. i cisto da prestignem whine koji ce da nadodje ... mozete da mi se sagnete pogotovu paladin blood elf kurva whiner :P Edited November 7, 2007 by StormScion Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlena Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 enh shaman = bolestan baff za mele grupu i ok dmg sam po sebi elemental shaman = dobar buff za caster grupu i dobar dmg feral druid = odlican tenk + odlican baf za mele grupu, bolji agro gain i rage gain od wara, nedostatak shilda parija i bloka nadoknadjuje capovanjem redukcije i dodgeom, u slucaju da nema potrebe za dva tenka i u raidu ima prot wara onda pristojan dmg u maci recimo bolji od hanta a sa ostalima se juri u zavisnosti od opreme balance druid = odlican baff za kastere, fin dmg moze da se juri sa frost magom prot pala = nezamenjiv za tenkovanje xy trasheva i ok za neko ot-ovanje reta za sad beskoristan makar po meni za shadow prista je vetj recheno ... Sve je samo pitanje skilla igraca i raidleadera da formira grupe u zavisnosti od speka/klase. Dani holy pristova, resto druida, resto shamana, i holy pala su proshli sa dolaskom tbc-a Jedino jadni warovi smrde kao protovi u pve-u :P Daj mohi nemoj biti smesan???????buhahaha!!!!Oces da kazes da je cat form bolja po dps od huntera?HEHEHE.Druid moze biti ssc/tk gearovan a da hunter ima samo bow od princa,hunter ce biti bolji po dps ja mogu da se kladim(naravno ako im je skilL tu negde) Quote NEMA JAKO I NEMA U GLAVU! [19:12:21] [W From] [80:Primevilka]: ja to zato shto te volim <3 Pa ne znam,pola shljive,njivik i bashtu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 ko da si reko da je yugo bolji od stojadina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurdusami Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Ja ne znam end game raid leadera koji će da kaže da enh shaman nije savršeno viable klasa u endgamu. Ima dps, ima raid utility, apsolutno sve što treba. Ne znam ni jednu gildu koja nema feral druide i shadow priestove. Dalje, kad su svi zapeli za Nihilum kao da je to sveto pismo, njihov raid leader je rekao da su enh shamani savršeno korisni, ali da ih oni ipak ne vode, ali imaju feral druide. Od ostalih hibridnih speccova, čuo sam a nisam video, da elemental shaman počinje da opada po dpsu posle TK, kao i da u BT boomkinu DPS jednostavno nije dovoljan jer nema raid utility. Što, naravno, ne sprečava gomilu gildi da vode boomkine u BT... Quote Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capma Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dakle, ne treba da se igraju shadow priestovi i enhancement shamani i feral druidi? ne stavljaj sp i ferala u isti kos sa enha shamanom :) Quote Interrupts better than Kanye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Ajde bre ljudi lupaju i prde ... sto se pve tiche pre bi vodio lika koji zna da igra i pro je i igra moonkina nego nekog retardiranog roguea pa sve i da ima 2x legendary ... prvi film koji sam skinuo od ilidan kila pre 3-4 meseca bio je legacy kill ilidana iz enhancement shaman perspektive gde je decko objasnio kako se igra fajt = baca healove kada je potrebno i 2-3 puta spasi maga da ne umre + sasvim ok dps ima sobzirom da je bio threat capped. Quote Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurdusami Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Ajde bre ljudi lupaju i prde ... sto se pve tiche pre bi vodio lika koji zna da igra i pro je i igra moonkina nego nekog retardiranog roguea pa sve i da ima 2x legendary ... /sign Quote Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario^^ Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) Kao sto su vec neki rekli... mnogo zavisi od toga kako lik igra... Iz lichnog iskustva, enh shaman moze da bude ok, mi imamo jednog i ono, tu je negde u sredini sa dmg-om, dok su rogue-ovi non stop pri vrhu ili su prvi kao i ova 2 dps warriora tako da kapiram da vredi. Par puta je jedan elemental shaman ishao kao dps, al je stvarno bio uzas dmg, a s obzirom da imamo u raidu max 2 maga , nije neka korist bila preterana od njega. Imamo i jednog moonkina na trialu, mada tbh, nisam mnogo gledo kakav je do sad, al ono... tu je negde u sredini, imo ne treba nam nishta. Feral druid je fantastichan off tank i sjajno zamenjuje prot warriora koji bi to inache radio, a kad nema sta da tanka, slab mu je dosta dps, al opet bolje od prot warriora u svakom slucaju + CR. Takodje, druid nam je MT na Archimondu i MS, mada sa sledecim patchem i promenom fear ward cooldowna, morace warrior. Hunteri, iznenadjujuce ( za mene bar ) u TBC-u prave brdo damage-a, ne retko su prvi, posebno ovaj jedan BM hunter i iz nekog razloga, posebno na trashu :> ( Rachunam on + pet ofc ). Al' eto, imamo ova 2 dps warriora koji bash bash sabijaju damage, uvek su u prvih 5, mada obojica odlichno igraju. Retri paladina jos nismo imali, a ima jedan koji ima neki hybrid build , nesto izmedju holija i prota valjda i ima dosta tank geara. Ako nekad fali tank za neki encounter, dobro dodje , a za MH trash je odlichan. Shto se tiche healera.... i mi furamo dosta shamana, mada i paladina, obichno su to neka 3 shamana, 3 paladina, 1 resto druid i 1 holy priest, zavisi od fighta, mada mogo bih da kazem da je shaman > paladin >> druid >>>priest. Edit : Sto se tiche patcha ; Iz moje perspektive ( warrior ) mace proc nerf nije bio potreban uopste, zna da pomogne nekad kad bash usere, al tu ne vidim nishta OP u poredjenju sa rogue mace stunom. Mislim, celo ovo sranje sa resilience-om najvishe ide na shtetu melee-a, a samo nerf za nerfom. Mislim pre svega na ovu promenu sa disarmom, pa onda WF nerf, pa rating potreban za oruzje. Ne znam dal' sam neshto zaboravio, kako god, najgore mi definitvno pada resilience i hp koji casteri imaju u jednakom gearu ( full merciless , honor etc ) , smejurija, istenkuje me bilo koji caster , pa sad jos i ovaj spell damage na healing opremu. Vec sad me prot / holy pala prebiju ko picku, dobar discipline priest takodje sa cd-ovima, kao i resto shaman. Jos cemo videti za dobro gearovane resto druide ( pvp spec, feral charge, imp. bash, uninteruptable cyclone / root etc ) + svi ovi buffovi za huntere. Lichno, warriora ne vidim nigde u konkurenciji 1v1 u "high end" pvp-u. Edited November 8, 2007 by Shakzor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Par puta je jedan elemental shaman ishao kao dps, al je stvarno bio uzas dmg, Obicno ne komentarisem, ali izvini, ili vam nije radio dmg meter ili je taj shaman bio : A. Lvl 47 B. Go Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencer Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) A recent thread on the US Forums points out that patch 2.3 still appears to have some fundemental problems. Bearing this in mind, the poster asks Blizzard if next week is a realistic date for release of the patch. Bornakk replied: "We will be closely monitoring the testing of the 2.3 patch, and if it looks like it won’t make the November 13 date, we will announce a delay." We can push it back if needed and continue to watch the testing. Ovaj deo mi se svideo :D How in the world is 2.3 going to come out next week when things are so fubared on the PTR right now? Hunters and Rogues are beyond broken owning everyone in pvp, gcd is still messed up, warrior talent trees are still messed up and the weapon mastery nerf hasnt been undone, hypothermia is back to 30s, pallys have like 30k hp unbuffed now, prot warriors still crit for 300, holy shock is hitting as hard as MS now with 30% damage buff, fury is getting the shaft with DW. This patch is beyond believable if it goes through in its current form. This will officially be the worst patch in history. Edited November 8, 2007 by Silencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kole Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 izvini ali wow je od pochetka bio takva igra, u chemu je problem? =o) to sto je tvoja emocionalna investicija u istu nekoc bila veca, a samim tim i objekivnost manja ne znachi da se odjednom igra omfg upropastila =o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kole Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 nisu i slazhem se, mada mozhemo da argumentujemo da sada prave svaku klasu u nekog hibrida jer ljudi polako ne znaju vishe sta oce (a tada se prestaje sa uplacivanjem ;o)) pa im daju stvari da eksperimentishu =o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlena Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Blizz sad pravi sprdnju od ovih patch-eva.To uopste pre nije bilo tako.Sada se cheka na neki patch po meseca-dva dana i on donese BRDOOOOO promena sto se meni totalno ne svidja zasto su uopste menjali skillove i lvl mogli su samo da ubace nove instance u outland i q i ponesto slicno.Smuci mi se igra kad vidim buffed castera(pvp spec) ima hletha kao neki prot tank to je cista glupost...I da napomenem tu arenu jos.Ja uopste ne cenim ljude koji imaju full merci,venterane,etc,etc.Iz jednog razloga: tu opremu moze uzeti svako ko ima imalo mozga bez problema!A jos nesto mi se ne svidja kod merci geara je to sto ta oprema samo TRPAJ STAMINU TRPAJ STAMINU i nista vise i fakticki najbolji pvper je onaj koji ima najvise stamine Quote NEMA JAKO I NEMA U GLAVU! [19:12:21] [W From] [80:Primevilka]: ja to zato shto te volim <3 Pa ne znam,pola shljive,njivik i bashtu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 ako je tako lako pretpostavljam da 70% ljudi u wowu nema to jer ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 ne znam shto se nervirate...igra je izgubila dushu kada je izashao TBC. blizzard sada samo "tovari",da se proda shto vishe.buffovacemo shta kod kazete,nije bitno. i sve mora da bude casual friendly.to je najbitnije.pu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestwowaccounts.com Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 sad da znam da quotujem quotovo bih onaj svoj post gde sam rekao kad sam skenjan etc... dodjem ovde i prochitam marlenine postove... :P kontam trebali bi da otvorite novi tread da se zove ***biseri*** i da samo moderatori mogu da ubacuju iste u taj tread :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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