killYg0r Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 10 fr-a i +1 hit i daje ti 1.6critical sanse zbog agilitija je bolje od 40 ap-a sem ako nisi fury warr onda ap -> ostalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) ovako ono sto mogu ja da ti kazem iako imam zeleno/plavog war lvl 60 ali razgovarao sam sa mnogo ljudi koji su dual wield . dual wield za pve treba ti dosta hit itema kada predjes 6-7 % na hit na konju si . Fury war je najveca imba sa odlichno opremom , znash fajjka verovatno , uvek je bar 5 % vec dps od prvog roguea koji ima 3/5 aq set etc , i ima asscandy ali ga ne korisit za pve nego nosi one dve imbe mach iz naxxa i sekiru iz bwla . Tako da nosish ono sto ti najvishe fali ... npr ako vec imash 5-6 % na hit onda ti onxiia ne treba i onda nosish eye of hakkar , ako imash manje onda nosish obrnuto ... sve treba izbalansirati . dakle za pve = fury dual wield jurish ap i + hit iteme na prvom mestu :) btw jesi li video calamityjev post na forumu 2700ap self buffed :) Edited August 2, 2006 by StormScion Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 jej to mu dodje 1200 hit kad se ne racuna armor mete a ako ides samo na ap i hit nemas dinar krita serem se ja u taj dps :D OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) lololo evo linka gde pisu grupe koji ce server biti sa kojima u "grupi" za cross bg-ove u 1.12 :DDDD http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/b...ml#battlegroup8 znaci gg nama bednicima na bouldefristu , padaju sve old school serveru gde svi imaju full tier 10 setove a pada nam u vek nilash gde cu sretati ex grammer police sa haomarusha od kojih mi je muka :c u opste nije fer podeljeno kako mogu da stave server star 3 meseca i 2 godine u isti kos razlika u opremi ljudi je nenormalna :) haomarush je u grupi 5 :p mada kad bolje pogledam sve grupe su izmesanse novi /stari server :c jedino mi je zao grupe 9 u kome su povezana 2 servera samo Edited August 2, 2006 by killYg0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Fingers Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ne znam u cemu je problem ali ja na ovom linku ne vidim nista,otvori stranicu ,pise pri vrhu Battlegrounds a ostatak strane prazan... Totentanz = Cold Fingers = OpT1mUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) da sad ne radi link :c ne znam zasto edit: proradio je ponovo pogledajte sad ponovo dok radi :p Edited August 3, 2006 by killYg0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 jej to mu dodje 1200 hit kad se ne racuna armor mete a ako ides samo na ap i hit nemas dinar krita serem se ja u taj dps :D crit dolazi sam po sebi svaka oprema ima menje vishe ap i crit ili crit i hit ... end game anyway to sto kazu to nije istina ... killygore idiote sredi link Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ako hoces selfbafed da imas 2700 apa onda nosis i leather i sl i nemas krita ... btw zanima me kolko je mortal sa ashkandijem i 2700ap-a ... preracunacu posle OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2681/wo...06164501kt6.jpg full plate je lik zato ja kazem ork je najbolji war , pogledaj mu dmg ... lol sto je najjache to su samo 2 random stvari tub proc i crusader proc sve ostalo on pali sam tj pali earthstrike bloodfury ili kako se vec zove onaj racial kod orka i battle shout . nebitno sto nema crita ima normal udarac kao crit kod prosecnih warriora ... mada malo hpa ima pa ga je lako pokidati , pve war . Edited August 3, 2006 by StormScion Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 rad link ne znam koji vam je kurac bre ako vam ne radi jbg meni radi taj warrior sa slike nema unbuffed 2700 ap-a nego sam svim cd-vima i crusaderom nije to isto :p a i ako je 4.8k hp-a malo sta onda magovi da kazu koji su klasa sa najmanje hp-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2681/wo...06164501kt6.jpg full plate je lik zato ja kazem ork je najbolji war , pogledaj mu dmg ... lol sto je najjache to su samo 2 random stvari tub proc i crusader proc sve ostalo on pali sam tj pali earthstrike bloodfury ili kako se vec zove onaj racial kod orka i battle shout . nebitno sto nema crita ima normal udarac kao crit kod prosecnih warriora ... mada malo hpa ima pa ga je lako pokidati , pve war . E jesi narkoman ... udara od 850-950 a mobove po barensu je udarao za 480 ... zaboravljas armor dechko ... + ako se dobro secam svih onih war vide-a dechkonje sa ashkandijem non krit udaraju po 500+ po leatheru bez enrage-a + serem se ja u tih 2700ap-a kad mu je 800 proc ... untamed blade + crusader I da sav taj "plate" na njegovoj glavi ... OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) idiote killy rekao sam SELF BUFFED ... bez buffova sa strane i rekao sam da su samo 2 buffa procovi to je ovaj sa untamed bladea i crusader ostala 3 buffa pali sam . to je malo hpa za warriora 5.5k je neka dobra cifra za ozbiljan pvp :) btw link sada radi hvala bogu ... dok ne podviknesh nema nista :) E jesi narkoman ... udara od 850-950 a mobove po barensu je udarao za 480 ... zaboravljas armor dechko ... + ako se dobro secam svih onih war vide-a dechkonje sa ashkandijem non krit udaraju po 500+ po leatheru bez enrage-a + serem se ja u tih 2700ap-a kad mu je 800 proc ... untamed blade + crusader I da sav taj "plate" na njegovoj glavi ... te mobove je udarao dok mu se nije desio proc ... mail mu je samo na glavi , uostalom ima 4200 armora sto nije bash nesto preterano ali je standardan armor ... kao da je bitno Tu gde njemu sada pishe 800-900 standardnom waru pishe 500-600 nisam ja rekao da on udara 800-900 na druge likove , nego sam rekao pogledajte sta pishe za dmg na tom screanu ~_~ ... ffs anyway za sve se racuna armor koliko znam pa i za te tvoje warove ... ok ako ti kazesh da je 2700 ap malo , pretpostavljam da znash krsh ljudi koji imaju vishe , pogotovo u alijansi ... pff , samo sam hteo da prestavim josh jedan vid imbe orc warriora ~_~ Edited August 3, 2006 by StormScion Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Extra grupa za xavius server nema sta! Serem im se u raspored... Bjukenon Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp. Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ortak se smorio pre neki dan i nabavofo se skoro maximalno(fali ony i zg buff) i stvarno je mnogo 2700 ap-a na predhodnom screenu bez bafova. Doduse orc+untamed blade pwn nref Ko laze taj i krade ko krade ima cokolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killYg0r Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 2x crusader gg :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp. Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Ja sam furao 2xcrusader na daggerima, dobra fora za pve, non stop upaljen na boss fightu. Edited August 3, 2006 by Kemp. Ko laze taj i krade ko krade ima cokolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ja chuo od ovih mojih matematichara iz gilde da je +5 dmg na mainhand dagger ipak bolje jebem li ga nisam racunao ... OPTIMISED FOR HUMAN OPTICAL NERVEBEST VIEWED WITH A MONITOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp. Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Enchant FAQ by Slant Rogue enchant priorities Combat rogue mainhand PvE: crusader >= lifesteal > fiery > +15agil >> +5dam >= +15str >>> unholy = icy Combat rogue mainhand PvP: lifesteal >= crusader > fiery > +15agil >> +5dam >= +15str >>> unholy = icy Dagger rogue mainhand PvE: +15 agil = crusader >= lifesteal = +5dam >= fiery > 15 str >>> unholy = icy Dagger rogue mainhand PvP: +5dam = +15 agil = lifesteal >= crusader = fiery > 15 str >>> unholy = icy Offhand (all): +15 agil >= lifesteal >= crusader > fiery > 15 str >>>>> +5dam > unholy = icy > better than >> much better than >> much much better than >= better than or equal to (very close) = equal to Rogues, Instant Attacks and Procs - Rogues have a real advantage when it comes to mainhand weapon procs. Procs are calculated as procs per minute, however this is internally expressed as a percentage value per attack. This means that when you spam 3 sinister strikes in the beginning of a fight your fiery enchant has a 84% chance to proc with a 2.80 speed weapon. - Mainhand weapon procs tend to go off roughly 2X as often as their procs per minute would infer for combat rogues. - Mainhand weapon procs tend to go off roughly 1.5X as often as their procs per minute would infer for dagger rogues. Crusader - 75-125 point heal and +100 strength for 15 seconds - crusader on both weapons dualwielding does stack. Only one icon shows up but you get both heals and your strength goes up by 200. - crusader is by far the best weapon buff for non-rogues and hunters as they get 2 attack per strength - rogues get 1 attack per strength, so 100 attack or 7.14dps - 7.14dps = +7.14dps on mainhand and +3.6 offhand (or +5.36dps offhand with imp dualwielding) - the 7.14dps also adds to instant attacks. This is calculated by (weaponspeed * 7.14)= damage added to instants - crusader is a buff so it isn't resistable, thus it is the best mainhand enchant for PvE raids - crusader has a low procrate and a duration, so it is much less useful in PvP and soloing where it seems to always proc at the end of a fight - crusader procs at a rate of 1 proc per minute. Thus a 2.80 speed weapon would proc 1/(60/2.80)= 4.67% chance per proc Lifesteal - 30 point heal and 30 point fire (NOT shadow) damage per proc - lifesteal procs at a rate of 6 procs per minute. Thus a 2.80 speed weapon would proc 6/(60/2.80)= 28.00% chance per proc - lifesteal is better than crusader for PvP and soloing as it is atomic damage and healing - lifesteal does 3dps and heals 3hps per hand with autoattack alone Fiery - 40 point fire damage per proc - fiery does 4dps with autoattack alone - fiery procs at a rate of 6 procs per minute. Thus a 2.80 speed weapon would proc 6/(60/2.80)= 28.00% chance per proc 15 agil - 15 agil = 15 attack = +1.07dps to mainhand and 0.54dps to offhand (0.80dps to offhand with imp dualwield) - 15 agil = 0.52% crit = 1.03% dodge 15 str - 15 str = 15 attack = +1.07dps to mainhand and 0.54dps to offhand (0.80dps to offhand with imp dualwield) 5 damage - adds a flat 5 damage to every attack - dps added is 5 / (speed of weapon), so on a 2.00 speed weapon like the barman shanker it would add 2.5dps to mainhand only - useful for mainhand dagger rogues only Demonslaying - 75-125 holy damage against demons and a 5 second stun - don't know procrate - useful if you're grinding on satyrs, basically Unholy/Icy - unholy is worthless and icy has a very low procrate, don't bother Maelstrom/Heroism Cards - No real tests have been performed yet for these procs. Hearsay says they are 1 proc per minute per hand. If this is true, they are worthy of being purple. Ko laze taj i krade ko krade ima cokolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 swords za pve ? Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurdusami Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 swords za pve ? To ne Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp. Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Naravno, swords za pve. Rade vise dpsa na bossovima(osim Vael figh), generalno treba biti umetnik da bi pulovao agro sa swordom. Edited August 3, 2006 by Kemp. Ko laze taj i krade ko krade ima cokolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BG]Cp6uja Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ortak se smorio pre neki dan i nabavofo se skoro maximalno(fali ony i zg buff) i stvarno je mnogo 2700 ap-a na predhodnom screenu bez bafova. Doduse orc+untamed blade pwn nref Sa kog je servera taj lik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp. Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Kul Tiras, moj guild. Lik je iz BG-a, juce napunio 40godina :D Ko laze taj i krade ko krade ima cokolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BG]Cp6uja Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Kul Tiras, moj guild. Lik je iz BG-a, juce napunio 40godina :D aha ... Tebe sam vidjao u Forumu cepash WoW, imam i tvoje scrnshot-ove na kompu prekopirao iz Foruma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormScion Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 To nešto čudno? ne mislio sam da swords samo i dolaze u obzir posto je combat spec sa swordovima najbolje , tako sam bar cuo , a i lik je u buildi imao full bloodfang i nightmare blade i malahiblablabla sword i pravio bolestan dmg ... pa mi je i glupo da vidim da daggeri dolaze u obzir :) mada opet ja sam nob ^^ Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the Hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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