Sheyn Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Bonsai je poceo da mi se sushi ... nisam nikad to gajila , tako da ne znam kako da mu pomognem ... da li neko to gaji ili je cuo nesto o pomoci pri sushenju ? inace..na guglu sam nasla da kao treba da se presadi ali neka baba u cvecari kaze da ne treba :P Quote step in my transporter , so I can teleport ya,all around my heavenly body.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Jaoo da nije to ono chudo sto kad zalijesh onako izraste lepo, ranije je to bio hit kod nas? ako jeste ja sam to bash voleo :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1zra Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 bonsai su "mala drva. seckaju se (podrezuju (obrezuju ) ) dok rastu, pa ostanu mala, ali se formiraju skroz kao prava drva.. mnogo ql stvar... inace, sto se tice pitanja, ne znam. Quote Ko je nub ne budi mu drug. I mean you harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Jaoo da nije to ono chudo sto kad zalijesh onako izraste lepo Mosh' misliti :) There are many varieties of plants that do well as an indoor bonsai such as ficus, aralia, azalea norfolk pine, serissa, gardenia, or boxwood. Note that these are all woody-stemmed plants and can have their limbs wired to direct the growth. Tropical and subtropical varieties can not tolerate tempers below 40 - 50 degrees F. These plants can be left outside when the temperatures stay above this. Light inside the house should be by filtered sunlight from an east, south, or west window. Grow lights 12 hours per day work well. Outside in summer place in partial shade Factors that Influence Watering by Brent Walston Introduction I like to check for dryness by lifting the pot. It takes some experience to develop the 'feel' of a dry bonsai, but it works quite well. It is amazing how much an adequate amount of water will increase the weight of the pot. Of course this is only possible for smaller plants. I don't go around lifting 5 gallon cans to see if they are dry, or the monster bonsai. But since about 25% of the volume of a proper soil mix is water at the saturation point, this is a significant increase in weight, and one needs only to pick up a pot when wet, and then when dry, to tell the marked difference. Dryness can also be tested with a chopstick inserted into the bonsai pot as a sort of dipstick. When the chopstick is pulled out and it is nearly dry, it is time to water. This is a method advocated by Michael Persiano. A third method, perhaps used by most people, is to dig half an inch under the soil surface. If it is dry down to this point, it is time to water. There are several factors that affect 'drying time' and they are all interrelated. For example, Malus and Prunus can tolerate denser soils under optimum conditions because they grow so quickly that the roots soon colonize it. This rapid top growth quickly pulls the water out. I have to prune all the time of course, so when I cut them back to form a new trunk section, they are now too wet until the top grows back. Here are some of the factors I have found that influence the drying time: Soil Mixture The primary components holding water are: organic and inorganic fines (very small particles), peat moss, vermiculite, and clay. If you increase the amount of any of these amendments to your soil mix, you will decrease drainage, and increase the water holding capacity of your soil, which will increase the interval between watering. Increasing the percentage of these elements to the point that the soil will hold more than 25% of its volume as water is not recommended. Beyond this point you may begin having root rot problems form decreased aeration (poor drainage). The components that increase drainage (aeration) and reduce water holding capacity are: inorganic and some organic (bark) large particles (greater than 1/8 inch). These include lava rock, coarse sand, perlite, turface and other stable fired clay products. Plant Size and Pruning Fast growing leafy species colonize rapidly, drying out the soil. Root bound or even properly root colonized plants will dry a pot very rapidly. This rapid drying of the soil is very healthy for the plant, if you manage to water often enough. Each time the plant dries out it pulls a fresh charge of air into the root zone. Likewise, each time the plant is watered and the excess water drains, another fresh charge of air follows the water to through the root zone. I consider the ideal watering interval during the growing season for outdoor plants to be one day. This makes watering easy to remember or schedule, and will almost assuredly prevent root rot problems. Cycles shorter than one day inevitably lead to dry or wilted plants on occasion. Plants that are well root colonized in the pot shorten the watering interval as the top grows and demands more water. After a plant is top pruned, transpiration is decreased and the watering interval is again increased. For plants that are very susceptible to root rot, it is important to pay close attention to this factor. Fertilizer By affecting how fast the plant will grow, fertilizer can accelerate the drying time. It can also speed the decomposition of the organic portions of the soil, causing premature soil collapse which increases drying time and slows growth. Soil collapse due to decomposition is a much overlooked factor in plant growth, and water intervals. It can be avoided by using a higher percentage of stable inorganic material and high quality organic material such as fir or pine bark. Decomposed wood fiber products other than bark decompose very quickly and are generally unsuitable for bonsai. The same is true of garden or other compost. Disease Root rot will decrease the ability of the plant to take up water and slow the drying time. The symptoms of root damage can be very misleading. There are several diseases that cause the blockage of the plant's vascular system, preventing it from taking up water. The outward symptom is the wilting of the leaves. The natural inclination is to water the plant, but the problem is not a lack of water, it is the inability of the roots to take it up. This leads to overwatering which severely exacerbates the fungal problem. The solution is to let the plant dry out, not to water it. Whenever a plant wilts, first make sure that the soil is dry before watering it. If it is not dry, this can be a symptom of a fungal infection of the roots. Wind Wind will increase transpiration and decrease the watering interval. Strong winds, under even moderate temperatures, can very quickly dry out a plant. Some plants are much more vulnerable than others. In general you should not place bonsai in an area that receives prevailing winds. This can even be a problem in winter when the soil is frozen around the plant's roots. The roots cannot absorb water under these conditions, but the foliage and stems continue to lose water. It is very important to protect plants from wind under these conditions, and to make sure your plants are thoroughly watered before the onset of cold drying winds. Sunlight Sunlight will heat the plant and the pot, increasing transpiration and evaporation, decreasing the watering interval. Bonsai grown in the hottest and driest areas of the country need to be located where they will get morning sun and afternoon shade. The fastest growth will occur where there is bright light and optimum (moderate) temperatures, so there is little growth loss for most plants by placing them in the shade in the heat of the afternoon. Optimum light levels will result in the fastest growth which will also decrease drying time by promoting increased foliage. High Temperature High temperature will increase transpiration even in the absence of sunlight and decrease drying time. Temperatures above 80F, with morning to full sun, and moderate to low humidity, will usually mean watering every day for most established container plants (and bonsai). High Humidity High humidity will decrease transpiration, and moderate high temperature, which will increase drying time. Increasing humidity can be a valuable part of extending the watering cycle in hot dry climates. In our area, I can avoid watering twice a day by giving the plants one or two short (several minute) bursts of fine spray during the heat of the afternoon when the temperature exceeds 100F. Pot Size An extra volume of soil increases the reservoir of water and increases the drying time. For very fast growing, water thirsty species such as Salix (Willow), this is a must. And finally Many of these factors may be manipulated to control the drying to suit our conditions. I feel that the ideal drying time is one to two days while the plants are actively growing. Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1zra Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 kruko smarach :P mogao sam i ja c/p... samo me rmzelo :\ Quote Ko je nub ne budi mu drug. I mean you harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Komentar ti je na nivou. Idi napij se, to je ocigledno jedino pametno sto znas da uradis. Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1zra Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 sto smo touchi.... post je bio sala inace... Quote Ko je nub ne budi mu drug. I mean you harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Nisam touchi brate, nego je ovo deseti put da danas otvaram neki topik gde neko nesto pita, svi se sao prave pametni, a niko nista pametno zapravo i ne odgovara... peace, nista licno, nalet hejta. Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGsa Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Nisam touchi brate, nego je ovo deseti put da danas otvaram neki topik gde neko nesto pita, svi se sao prave pametni, a niko nista pametno zapravo i ne odgovara... peace, nista licno, nalet hejta. ← dunjo sha zapushtash ovo drvo... nego... ja imam bambus ( )... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Ja imam veeeliki fikus pored stola. On mi je dokaz da kompovi nisu stetni jer je pored otvorene bocne strane mog polu-kucista. Lepo napreduje. A bonsai...moja mamica je to gajila kad je zivela u pekingu. Treba im puno ljubavi i nege i po mogucnosti, kinez bastovan skriveni-majstor-kung-fua-koji-se-povukao-u-mir-i-osamu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboy Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Bonsai je cool, ali laksi za odrzavanje su ovi pitbul-kaktusi, a nastaju ukrstanjem pitbula i bodljikavog praseta: Quote Унутра је сигурно читава експлозија радости и магије! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therion Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 I know this explanation will be quite long, but the matter of sizes in the world of Shohin deserves some explanation. There are many misunderstandings about Shohin-Bonsais, and I hope I can put them a little away with this explanation. I am in contact with the All Japan Bonsai Association quite often, and have studied this matter some. Read more... 1. Prelude In articulus sic aeternus - Spiritus donec dies fas Dies Irae, Dies Illa - Solvet saeclum in favilla (Born) into the moment that is Forever - To breath until that fateful day Day of Wrath, Day of Burning - All the world to ashes turning... 2. Evolution (The Grand Design) [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Russel Allen, Jason Rullo] Born from the light - journey into the moment, delivered from thought and sky He will be one, one with the land - Lord of wind and the sea and the sands The one - The bringer of life "All will bear a part of me - let this hollow shell set your free to live as one" Here we are - Children of Sun and Stars the first to know and to understand Living by the Law of the Ages prophets and sages - forging Utopia Great Ptah - Khnemu - sacred priest of the Temple of Ra and the keeper of truth Crystalline spheres, the power of light, grant us keys to the stars and the secrets of flight 'Five shall be as One' "We unlock the mysteries of knowledge and technology" Here we are - Children of Sun and Stars the first to know and to understand Living by the Law of the Ages prophets and sages - forging Utopia 'We shall live forever, and cast out those less divine Gods we will be - rulers of the sea - in our Grand design' Here we are - Children of Sun and Stars the first to know and to understand Living by the Law of the Ages prophets and sages - forging Utopia "...and to create entirely new beings was an even greater display of thier power, but in attempting to merge thier energies, some of the newly made beings were disfigured...and there were altered creatures with wings, hooved legs and tails - part human, part beast. And they became divided..." 3. Fallen [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella, Michael Lepond, Jason Rullo] [Lyrics: Russel Allen, Jason Rullo] Alone I walk, among the twisting shadows tempted by the ancient magic, the Power of Five My desire to mirror my own image - and I will offer you no soul - offer you no soul Tonight Darkness will shadow the Light - Symmetry divine, there's no force greater Dividing the Fathers of Time Feel my hate, I'm banished to this wasteland my Serpents plot the overthrow of your temples and shrines In the night, my army's rage and fury burning my shadow into the land - Vengeance by my hand Tonight Darkness will shadow the Light - Symmetry divine, there's no force greater Dividing the Fathers of Time Tonight Darkness will shadow the Light - Paradise denied - the balance of ages forever lost in time Was I sure of my fateful wish to evoke the night from the day? Thousands now join as one - be afraid What have I done? Clouds are dimming the Sun with his wrath of disease and decay This masque of vengeance leads my death parade What have I done? "My shadow burning - my shadow burns across the land...". Tonight Darkness will shadow the Light - Symmetry divine, there's no force greater Dividing the Fathers of Time Tonight Darkness will shadow the Light - Paradise denied - the balance of ages forever lost in time "...and there was a need for balance, the coming of Ma'at.." 4. Transcendence (Segue) [Music: Michael Romeo] [instrumental] 5. Communion And The Oracle [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Jason Rullo] All we know, now has come undone Balance lost between the Moon and Sun Hear out prayers - Keepers of the Skies Divine Upon us all - let your wisdom shine Losing faith as the madness prevails in us all we are searching for a reason, a need to calm the storm In our sails - let your winds be strong Breathe the air around you The oceans fill your veins and winds embrace your heart Feel the change within you The Sun and Moon align - The Grand Design awaits a new start From the skies, looking down on you Through the clouds tainted crystal blue "Such advancement, yet lacking the control, so unaware of your earthly roles" Praise this child and the words of her rhyme A sacred gift - Magic of the Five will bring you tranquillity A new order of equality Five senses come alive - Five reasons thrive - Five nations unite - Unite as one Night and Day will find a way to keep the Balance true Let the Sky and Stars be your guide - the destination is up to you Raise our heads up to the Skies Feel the essence of Time Changing ways like the shifting tides In the waves hear the Rhyme "..unfortunately, not all were interested in the Ways of Justice, and those of the Night gathered to plot the elimination of the great Law of One and the death of Ma'at. The Atlantens harnessed the energy of the great Crystals to create a weapon of immense power, unaware that the power they possessed would ultimately lead to thier downfall..." 6. The Bird-Serpent War/Cataclysm [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnela] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] Mocking the ways of Justice - the Serpent's Dragon - Vultures ride Storming the Gates of Seven - no mortal man shall break our stride Our flames engulf your good works and our terror reigns supreme Dark beasts that do my bidding by thrashing, tearing down your dreams "Gather 'round chosen people of the Grand Design Scorn the prophet's words - 'the device of our demise'..." The crumbling earth beneath the weapon's roar - Raining fire from shore to shore Neptune's might - the storming waves rise to make the Kingdom's grave And all Atlantis cried - a million souls crying out Save the child from the Sea - she must carry on The secrets and technology shrouded deep in mystery - only One will carry on - Carry on... "...the perservation of Balance was utmost importance, and cast into the sea was the child Ma'at, to find a new land...riding on the breath of Poseidon..." 7. On The Breath Of Poseidon (Segue) [Music: Michael Romeo] [instrumental] 8. Egypt [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella, Michael Lepond] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Russel Allen, Jason Rullo] Endless sands of Alnantees - etched in gold, a city lost in time and from the Sea - A Child speaks of things unseen, before the King - a teller of the Rhyme Five align - hidden in the word a message locked in time find the Key - it draws the final line between what is and what should never be Gaze in these eyes my child and see - here by my side, you're destined to be Fears in the night flee with the Sun - if we are One Kingdom of Gold I lay at your feet - Ruler of Time and Space you will be Rivers of Truth forever will run - if we are One From the ruins of Atlantis, the Lord of Night rises from the sands He seeks the one - his serpent's tail and twisted tongue - a bringer of War - Destroyer of the land Five align - hidden in the word a message locked in time find the Key - it draws the final line between what is and what should never be "Rise my minions - from within the deep abyss my disciples - thunder this necropolis" Gaze in these eyes my child and see - here by my side, you're destined to be Fears in the night chasin the Sun - now we are One Kingdom of Gold now lay at my feet - Ruler of Time and Space I will be Rivers of Lies forever will run - now we are One 9. The Death Of Balance/Lacrymosa [Music: Michael Romeo, Jason Rullo] Lacrimosa dies illa, qua resurget ex favilla judicandus homo reus "..tainted memories of Balance lost, forever bury the truth of all unity..." 10. Absence Of Light [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Russel Allen] Now at my feet, the dying voice of Balance - nevermore shall there be a way to fly, a way to fly on wings of Divinity, as words of wisdom fade away The Law of One will fade and die The rising Moon will crush the Sky So falls the Night - the darkest hour Seek and find all the secrets left for you Absence of Light - unbalanced power Only then will you know The hidden words - a piece of the puzzle - Time will tell what will be Between the lines, the past and future you will find - the ones and zeros are the key to unlock what's sealed The Law of One will fade and die The rising Moon will crush the Sky So falls the Night - the darkest hour Justice lost - a travesty we must undo Absence of Light - unbalanced power Only then will you know "Awaken all from Set - Amentet - Worship all that I represent" So falls the Night - the darkest hour Destruction, death and war are in the air Absence of Light - unbalanced power ruling all that we know So falls the Night - the darkest hour Unbound - what once was lost - now is found Absence of Light - unbalanced power Only then will we know "...curse the fools who look for enswers in a Rhyme,...I am the future, I am Montu - Sekhmet" 11. A Fool's Paradise [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] [Lyrics: Russel Allen, Michael Pinnella] What's become of the world - the colors unfurl revealing a blackened haze Conditioned to fear the voice that we hear - calling an end of days Millions of souls under control like pawns to a king, led by a string, to the final hour Oh - Empire of the Sea, Lords of technology that fell into the void Oh shall it be as it was before - a tragedy on every shore? Is this the end of all we know - Innocence lost so long ago Woven in dreams - the darkest of schemes now takes hold of our destiny Decades of greed, plague, famine and war - we can't go on like this anymore living like fools - chaos will rule this eternal paradise Death by design, altering birth - trends of the modern age the wisdom of life erased from the Earth - in a reckless rampage Oh - Empire of the Sea, Lords of technology that fell into the void Oh shall it be as it was before - a tragedy on every shore? Is this the end of all we know - Innocence lost so long ago Woven in dreams - the darkest of schemes now takes hold of our destiny Decades of greed, plague, famine and war - we can't go on like this anymore living like fools - chaos will rule this eternal paradise Dies Irae, Dies Illa, Solvet Saeclum in favilla Decades of greed, plague, famine and war - we can't go on like this anymore living like fools - chaos will rule this eternal paradise Is this the end of all we know - Innocence lost so long ago Woven in dreams - the darkest of schemes now takes hold of our destiny Decades of greed, plague, famine and war - we can't go on like this anymore Lost in the Night - fading from sight - is this the final setting sun? 12. Rediscovery (Segue) [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella] [instrumental] "...and on the Eye of Alignment the everlasting battle of Darkness and Light descends to another plane, but, on this material Earth, we must look to a crime remembered only by a collective resonance in the human consciousness... when Five where as One..." 13. Rediscovery (Part II) - The New Mythology [Music: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella, Jason Rullo] [Lyrics: Michael Romeo, Michael Pinnella, Russel Allen] A voice from the past echoes the fate - a tale of all things yet to come as it once was, so it shall be again modern day Children of the Sun Seek the hidden rhyme and there you'll find a new world order Feel the mystery - so much to see through the eyes of hope The Thoughts of Ma'at, forever secured - locked in the Ages Goddess of Truth speaks eternally from the depths of the pages Seek the hidden words - as time unfolds you'll find the answers Feel the mystery - look to the Sea, under Skies of Hope What have we done? Can we right all the wrongs - the evils and fears, for thousands of years, that forever drain our vitality? Can this go on without dyer consequence? Our tragic ways, the end of days that shadow the dawn of eternity... He's taken form in human - likeness and manifests himself in all our darkest dreams Preying upon centuries of weakness Feasting on despair and our own selfish greed Bow down to me - (we will never understand) Then take my hand and you will see - (we'll see...) you will see paradise - (a paradise?) - of pain and death awaiting for you all - (we'll decide the future) Lost evermore the essence of truth, although she tried in vein to bring us peace, it will ever rest in our hands We've cried a thousand tears for all we had, and all the things we could have been, we must find our way again Fools who looks for answers in a rhyme, seeking out a lie, an illusion I am the future, the ageless mutation Five beyond the skies align, Zeus to Ra - the final sign My opposition's drawing near, feeding on his fear - tasting anguish I have the power - the ageless invasion Five beyond the skies align, Zeus to Ra - the final sign From the Messenger on Wings, Peace and War - a line of Kings... Again the Titans clash on the edge of this earthen plane Now from the depths they speak - echoing from the wave - From the Waves... "Choose the way, five paths there for you to find turn the page, the question lies between the lines can we change?" 14. Masquerade '98 [japanese bonus track] Shackled in darkness The forbidden portrait confined to its frame Unbroken silence A total misfortune and shame Raging obsession This mask of opression It hides your aggression from view This tearing suture Renounces the love he once knew You sacrifice this paradise of innocence Trust the lie - you falsify the line of truth You disguise your insolence Don't deny insanity - mediocrity Save us from this masquerade of lies Kings and fools die in ridicule (save us) Save us from this masquerade of lies A fallen fortress sees him beneath starless skies Subsiding deeper - the final farewell in his eyes Unspoken hero Distrust and thrusted within surmise Seizing intrusion to unveil his clever disguise You sacrifice this paradise of innocence Trust the lie - you falsify the line of truth Save us from this masquerade of lies Kings and fools die in ridicule (save us) Save us from this masquerade of lies [solo] Save us from this masquerade of lies Kings and fools die in ridicule (save us) Save us from this masquerade of lies AHA, ko sada kopi peJStuje??? 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Therion Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 stvarno bi se trebalo staviti ogranichenje na duzhinu post-ova.... dude Quote lama ftw" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1zra Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 nhf krule... samo, iskontrolisi se.. mojne tako niske hejtove.... kad zavlacis, zavuci dubokoooo Quote Ko je nub ne budi mu drug. I mean you harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaG Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 dunja, jebote, pa zalivaj ga! Quote neka osoba glupak hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch1zra Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 zaivaj.. celivaj.... ivica ??? ivica.. IVICA ?? Quote Ko je nub ne budi mu drug. I mean you harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaG Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 E CHIZRA AJ IDI NAPIJAJ SE Quote neka osoba glupak hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Lage, zalij mi fikus E Chizra aj idi napij se :)))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 lol niggeru... da mi je samo znati kako je uspeo Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urgh Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 svrati do botanichke bashte i raspitaj se loma. Quote No one can survive becoming a legend.i ja kazem jebiga! Kao da je jebiga neka magichna rech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 lol niggeru... da mi je samo znati kako je uspeo ←Osecam da se popeglao sa morskim prasetom ili jezom Quote Bjukenon Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 to na slici nije pit bul.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Osecam da se popeglao sa morskim prasetom ili jezom ← ne mislish na morsko prase nego na bodljikavo... divlja zivotinja nikad ne bi uradila nesto ovako glupo Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Da,da bodljikavo naravno :) Ne znam,nisam pametan,mozda je i vlasnik kreten pa ga ''ulepsao'' za slikanje... Quote Bjukenon Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguana Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 ne, hteo sam da kazem da nesto sto zivi u divljini ne bi nikada napalo bodljikavo prase sa ledja, ali pasji hibrid, koji nije video ni v od divljine verovatno... Quote It's nice to be good, but it's nothing compared to being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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