Masoni

[Kal1mero]

jes bio je niko i nista i postao premijer :D

[Longleyy]

glupo je misliti da i ako postoji tako neka tajna i mocna organizacija koja kontrolise svet, da bi mi znali za nju... tako daa, moje neko verovanje je da su masoni jednostavno klub bogatih i mocnih ljudi i da postoje, dok za one pravo zajebane, ni ne znamo ko su i sta su :S

[peja_]

znamo, bankari

[eclctc]

ma masoni su u stvari potcinjeni jezuitima i jezuitskom generalu (aka crnom papi, btw on stvarno postoji i u najmanju ruku ja ravnopravan sa papom a nije isljuceno i da ga kontrolise!)

znam ja 100%, naime procitao sam totalno nepristrasnu knjigu "vatikanske ubice" bivseg jezuite dr. alberta romera rivere u kome ih raskrinkava! odvojite jedno po podne za ovo spoznajuce shtivo, jer je u pitanju kratka knjiga, oko 80 str. ima je na netu u pdf-u

i tako...

[Kal1mero]

glupo je misliti da i ako postoji tako neka tajna i mocna organizacija koja kontrolise svet, da bi mi znali za nju... tako daa, moje neko verovanje je da su masoni jednostavno klub bogatih i mocnih ljudi i da postoje, dok za one pravo zajebane, ni ne znamo ko su i sta su :S

istina se najbolje cuva kada je pred ocima :)ne kazemo da masoni upravljaju svetom :) jer oni su samo jedni od njih :) ima koliko hoces tajnih organizacija :) ne znamo ko izvodi radove :) ali znamo kojim se alatom sluzi :DDDDDDDDD

[Corey]

 @Longli

Možeš da saznaš ko su, ali ćeš morati prilično duboko da kopaš i pročitaš gomilu gluposti pre nego što dođeš da prave istine. Od ljudi se ne skriva ništa, i sve nam je ispred očiju ali se putem kontrole svesti od realnosti pravi fantazija i umeće nova koja predstavlja realnost koju su upravo oni skrojili. To je poenta svega, da se čovek dovede na takvo stanje svesti da misli najgore o sebi, kako je obična nula koja za realnost prihvata ono što mu drugi kaže, i svako istupanje van kolekvitnog razmišljanja predstavlja ludilo bilo ono istinito ili ne. Baš zbog čovekove zatupljenosti on istinu ne može da vidi iako mu je uvek bila ispred očiju, i uvek će tu biti. Tipična iluzija oko tih Masona i tajnih organizacija je stvaranje NWO-a radi ultimativne globalno fašističke države sa jednim centrom, jednom religijijom i jednom valutom. Ciljevi su tačni, ali niko ne uviđa da je kontrola kompletna otkad je sveta i veka, samo što će na kraju kada bude prekasno da se i javno zna ko je sve bio iza toga. Da priča bude tužnija, oni koje nisu uhvatili u svojoj mreži putem religija, većih sekti, televizije uspeće putem gomile smernica i spletki koji su navodna "urbanost", "alternativa" i "spasenje". Ne postoji tako nešto kao kolektivno spasenje koje se nameće, i upravo je to odvraćanje od suštinske bitke za Sopstvo i procesa individuacije kojom se ta bitka jedino dobija. Ropstvo je kolektivno, a oslobađanje individualno i lično.

Naravno ovo moje laprdanje je verovatno smešno većini, posebno zato što nisam dovoljno mator, ali nisam mogao da prećutim zato što je stvar mnogo bitna. Za kraj jedan dobar tekst o aktuelnoj situaciji, možda će nekoga uznemiriti ali realnost je takva.

@prime_abuse

Dobra je knjiga, ali Rivera nije imao sve informacije iz svog iskustva, već ima i velikih zabluda zato što i on sam nije visoko iniciran bio iako možda misliš suprotno.

nije baš dorađen, ali može se čitati.

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape theirperception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing theconnection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bringsuspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur. We will always stand above the relative field of their experience forwe know the secrets of the absolute. We will work together always and will remain bound by blood andsecrecy. Death will come to he who speaks. We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak whilepretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways sothey will never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food andwater, also in the air. They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn. The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feedthem more poison. The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they willdestroy their minds and reproductive systems. From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will concealthis information. The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in whatthey drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far. We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images andmusical tones. Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push ourpoisons. They will see our products being used in film and will growaccustomed to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of theirchildren and convince them its for their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will targettheir children with what children love most, sweet things. When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will killtheir mind and steal their future. When their ability to learn has been affected, we will createmedicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases forwhich we will create yet more medicine. We will render them docile and weak before us by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to usfor help, we will give them more poison. We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so theymany never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and gamesso they may never be one with the oneness of it All. Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-alteringtechnology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.   We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.We will own both sides. We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan. They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from theirtoil. Our families will never mix with theirs.   Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.   We will make them kill each other when it suits us.   We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.   We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what tothink and how.  We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they areguiding themselves.   We will foment animosity between them through our factions.   When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it byridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.   We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their ownchildren.   We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as ourfriend.   The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that fromtheir conflicts we emerge as their rulers.   They will be busy killing each other.   They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for aslong as we see fit.   We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for theycannot see us.   We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.   We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal isaccomplished.   We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though imagesand sounds.   We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.   The tools will be provided by their labor.   We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.   We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.   This they must never know!   They must never know that color is an illusion, they must alwaysthink they are not equal.   Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.   We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise totalcontrol over them.  We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the littlefreedom they will have.  We will establish a monetary system that will imprison them forever,keeping them and their children in debt.  When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes andpresent a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.  We will use our media to control the flow of information and theirsentiment in our favor.  When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects,for they are less than that.  They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.  We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we willpromise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have forthey are not of us.  The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated tobelieve false rites of passage to higher realms.  Members of these groups [Editor´s Note: the Illuminati] will thinkthey are one with us never knowing the truth.  They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.  For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and greattitles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never willthey receive the light and travel the stars.  They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their ownkind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.  This they will never know.  The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not beable to focus on it until its too late.   Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they willnever know they are our slaves.  When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them willown them.  This reality will be their prison.  They will live in self-delusion.  When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. [N.of Ed.: the New World Order].  Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we haveestablished from time immemorial.  But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then.THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.  If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they willtake action.  They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, weshall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we areonce the veil has fallen.  Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us downand no person shall give us shelter.   This is the Secret Covenant by which we shall live the rest of ourpresent and future lives, for this reality will transcend manygenerations and life spans.  This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who fromheaven to earth came.  This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.  It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, theconsciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIMECREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence wecame and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

[eclctc]

@prime_abuse

Dobra je knjiga, ali Rivera nije imao sve informacije iz svog iskustva, već ima i velikih zabluda zato što i on sam nije visoko iniciran bio iako možda misliš suprotno.

naravno da rivera nije raspolagao ni priblizno adekvatnim setom informacija, i da je izvlacio neke smele zakljucke pri cemu je samo ukazivao na odredjene korelacije koje u principu i nemaju neku dokaznu snagu...

pored toga knjiga je puna istorijskih netacnosti, npr. reci da je nemacki kajzer vilhelm II bio "dobar katolik" a u stvari je bio protestant je velika greska...

rivera je samo sklopio pricu koja je donekle logicki konzistentna, pa mi je zato simpaticno sa kolikom tendecioznoscu pretenduje da bude istinita :) zato sam i napisao u prvom postu "totalno nepristrasna knjiga" i stavio smiley :)

Edited February 14, 2010 by prime_abuse

[Kal1mero]

matori je li ovo neka hipnoza sa zutim slovima ?:!D

[Kristian]

@ Yellow wall of text

Pa da, to je bukvalno danasnja situacija u svetu. Od jebenog marketinga i medija, preko ratova i vakcina, i vlasti i "opozicije" i tako dalje...

Slazem se sa svim napisanim, ali isto tako mislim da se tome blizi kraj. Ne znam zasto, ali nekako vec neko vreme imam takav osecaj.

[Corey]

matori je li ovo neka hipnoza sa zutim slovima ?:!D

To je trigger matoree   samo posmatraj

[Pekarman]

Ne furamo svi crnu temu Corey ... :) i gde su opisi orgija ?

[Corey]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120663/ :)

[eclctc]

 

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape theirperception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing theconnection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bringsuspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur. We will always stand above the relative field of their experience forwe know the secrets of the absolute. We will work together always and will remain bound by blood andsecrecy. Death will come to he who speaks. We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak whilepretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways sothey will never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food andwater, also in the air. They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn. The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feedthem more poison. The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they willdestroy their minds and reproductive systems. From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will concealthis information. The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in whatthey drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far. We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images andmusical tones. Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push ourpoisons. They will see our products being used in film and will growaccustomed to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of theirchildren and convince them its for their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will targettheir children with what children love most, sweet things. When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will killtheir mind and steal their future. When their ability to learn has been affected, we will createmedicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases forwhich we will create yet more medicine. We will render them docile and weak before us by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to usfor help, we will give them more poison. We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so theymany never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and gamesso they may never be one with the oneness of it All. Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-alteringtechnology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.   We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.We will own both sides. We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan. They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from theirtoil. Our families will never mix with theirs.   Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.   We will make them kill each other when it suits us.   We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.   We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what tothink and how.  We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they areguiding themselves.   We will foment animosity between them through our factions.   When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it byridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.   We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their ownchildren.   We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as ourfriend.   The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that fromtheir conflicts we emerge as their rulers.   They will be busy killing each other.   They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for aslong as we see fit.   We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for theycannot see us.   We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.   We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal isaccomplished.   We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though imagesand sounds.   We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.   The tools will be provided by their labor.   We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.   We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.   This they must never know!   They must never know that color is an illusion, they must alwaysthink they are not equal.   Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.   We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise totalcontrol over them.  We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the littlefreedom they will have.  We will establish a monetary system that will imprison them forever,keeping them and their children in debt.  When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes andpresent a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.  We will use our media to control the flow of information and theirsentiment in our favor.  When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects,for they are less than that.  They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.  We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we willpromise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have forthey are not of us.  The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated tobelieve false rites of passage to higher realms.  Members of these groups [Editor´s Note: the Illuminati] will thinkthey are one with us never knowing the truth.  They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.  For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and greattitles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never willthey receive the light and travel the stars.  They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their ownkind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.  This they will never know.  The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not beable to focus on it until its too late.   Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they willnever know they are our slaves.  When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them willown them.  This reality will be their prison.  They will live in self-delusion.  When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. [N.of Ed.: the New World Order].  Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we haveestablished from time immemorial.  But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then.THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.  If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they willtake action.  They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, weshall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we areonce the veil has fallen.  Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us downand no person shall give us shelter.   This is the Secret Covenant by which we shall live the rest of ourpresent and future lives, for this reality will transcend manygenerations and life spans.  This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who fromheaven to earth came.  This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.  It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, theconsciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIMECREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence wecame and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

sustina: "Niko nije tako beznadezno porobljen kao onaj koji lazno veruje da je slobodan" veliki Gete

[tracktorista]

povraca mi se od teorija zavere :(

[Cela]

ban ga

niko ne pominje zeitgeist i andjela , nisu dovoljno dobri il ? :>

[Kal1mero]

andjela ?:D sta je to :D a zeitgest nije dovoljno dobar !! NISU POMENULI SRBE !@!:D

[Cela]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=digitalni+andjeo&search_type=&aq=f (digitalni andjeo , zig zveri )

ovde se samo Srbi pominju , i Ruski car :>

jes da ga je pisao neki fanatik , ima zanimljivih delova , mada ceo nije bas realan :>

[Corey]

Kakav crni Zeitgeist. Baziran na radovima Jordana Maxwella, čoveka koji širi disinfo(što se naravno videlo u Zeigeistu po glupostima koje sadrži) i radi u interese NWO-a. Ako vas ne mrzi, proverite sami.

[Cela]

nisam znao to :)

kori , sta si citao pa si saznao vise o ovoj temi , na internetima nesto ili ? :)

[Corey]

To i kada uleti neka dobra knjiga.

[Wicked]

kristian bi mogao sve da nas prosvecuje danima o ovakvim temama trust me :D covek moze opusteno da bude dr.mr. teorija zavere

[tracktorista]

al nemojte

[Doolio]

danas je popularno odbacivati SVAKI komentar o udruzivanju i organizovanju na nekom visokom nivou kao "teoriju zavere", cesto bez ikakvog analitickog procesa pri tom odbacivanju, tako da je ova tema osudjena na propast unapred i ja necu nista vise na njoj pisati:)

[eclctc]

danas je popularno odbacivati SVAKI komentar o udruzivanju i organizovanju na nekom visokom nivou kao "teoriju zavere", cesto bez ikakvog analitickog procesa pri tom odbacivanju, tako da je ova tema osudjena na propast unapred i ja necu nista vise na njoj pisati:)

ali isto tako imas i suprotni pol, tj. imas i drugu stranu koja takodje nekriticki i zdusno prihvata "teorije zavere", a da pri tom ne poznaje ni ono elementarno u drustvenom odnosu elita-masa, niti pak poznaje u dovoljnoj meri celokupan drustveno-ekonomski milje u kome zivi. ta strana takodje bez ikakvog analitickog procesa prihvata raznorazne teorije, koje upravo zbog svoje ekstraordinarnosti tako lako zaintrigiraju pojedinca.

uvek je lakse pogledati Zeitgeist, nego, recimo, procitati Rajt Milsovu "Elitu moci"...

po meni, za pravo razumevanje (sireg i uzeg) drustvenog okruzenja potrebno je poznavanje ogromnog korpusa cinjenica iz oblasti sociologije, drustvene antropologije, istorije (posebno ove savremenije)... a ono se ne stice preko noci, vec bezmalo kroz visedecenijsko kontinuirano obrazovanje (da me neko pogresno ne shvati, ne mislim samo na obrazovanje kroz institucije, vec i na obrazovanje na sopstvenu inicijativu)

Edited February 15, 2010 by prime_abuse

[Trooper]

danas je popularno odbacivati SVAKI komentar o udruzivanju i organizovanju na nekom visokom nivou kao "teoriju zavere", cesto bez ikakvog analitickog procesa pri tom odbacivanju, tako da je ova tema osudjena na propast unapred i ja necu nista vise na njoj pisati:)

moje razmišljanje je ovakvo:

Ako i postoje zavere i tajna udruženja koja kontrolišu svet, što bi mi oni smetali? Meni ne smeta da oni imaju milijarde dokle god ja mogu da imam hiljade. Možda je sebično, a možda je skromno, al jebiga... Šta ja koj' đavo mogu da uradim po pitanju zavera? Da se uzaludno borim protiv njih po internetima ili da tu energiju i vreme iskoristim da smislim kako da na neki način zaradim pare, unapredim sebe, obezbedim sebi dobar život i budem u stanju da odlazim 2 nedelje godišnje na neko toplo ostrvo, pijem koktele iz kokosa i da me potpuno bole kurac za Masone, Rotare i Crab People?