Druidi

[miwi]

Morao sam ovo da napisem znaci pljujete po Pali , Shamanu i Priestu te ovakvi su te onakvi.Zar niko ne shvata da nije sve u pvp jedan na jedan neko je u jednom topiku sve lepo objasnio da svako moze svakog da dobije a najvaznije je da neko ko igra lika treba da zna da igra.Sve je u glavi.Svaki lik je vazan za party ne moze uvek da se pogodi party koji svima odgovara tako da je najvaznije da lik zna da igra,bez obzira na rasu i klasu.Posle 60 lvl ostaju inst i bg znaci party i raid a ne jedan na jedan.Toliko o tome.A vec kad spominjete po losem ove gore navedene obratite paznju malo na Druide dps cat, armor bear, heal,spelovii baff i novi patch :).A ovo se sad tice samo Mohicana molim te ne vredjaj druge ljude i druge gildove zaviri malo u svoj pitaj kako su se poneli u DM areni, a pre toga su dobili veliku pomoc,u areni i ispred instance od ljudi koje su zajebali,ne samo zajebali vec se poneli veoma, veoma ruzno.Btw znas dosta o igri ali nisi je ti izmislio a da procenis ljude i da se lepo ponasas tu si nula.

[Immortalis]

miwi, predpostavljam da igrash neku od klasa koju branish , jel npr ja nikad ne bi stao u odbranu palishe ili shamya po pitanju toga da li su imba ili ne. NARAVNO DA JESU, neki su nobovi pa ih je malo teze ubiti, neki normal pa su strashno zajebani , a neki su pro, pa su neunishtivi. Ja se neshto i ne nerviram oko te cele price ko je imba , ko ne vremenom ce se sve srediti kao shto je blizz sredio war.

Caydiem: Welcome to the first monthly CM meeting in the Moonglade! This is a special opportunity for the community to interact with the CMs on a personal level.

Rogue: First.

Mage: First!

Warrior: Fourth?

Hunter: Nerf Shamans!

Shaman: Shamans are fine! Learn to play your class!

Hunter: Funny how only Shamans ever say that...

Rogue: Your MOM knows how to play her class.

Warlock: Shouldn't you be off fixing classes instead of interacting with the community?

Eyonix: The first item on the list of topics is the subject of Mage Invisibility.

Mage: Yeah! Will we ever get that back?

Eyonix: During the beta, Mages used invisibility to suddenly blast players for thousands of damage with little or no warning. We felt this was overpowered and this is why we removed it before the game went live...

*Rogue's Ambush crits Mage for 2238*

*Mage is afflicted by Kidney Shot*

*Rogue's Backstab crits Mage for 1159*

*Mage Dies*

Eyonix: ...so we hope you will understand why Invisibility was removed from the game. Are there any more questions from the mages? Anyone? Alright, then, lets move on.

Caydiem: A new change being implemented in the next major patch is that Druid's shapeshifting will now clear all negative status effects, including magic, curse, bleed, poison, disease, snares, stuns, roots, itching, sneezing, coughing, runny nose, insomnia, hair loss, pimples, black plague, world hunger, polio, cancer, gangrene, the 80's, lice, ADHD, and mental retardation. However, it will not remove the daze effect because this would be overpowered.

Warlock: WTF, my class relies on debuffs to deal damage. How am I supposed to take druids now!?

Druid: Learn to play your class, noob.

Shaman: Hey, thats MY line!

Druid: Sorry.

Rogue: WTF, my class relies on ADHD to deal damage! How am I supposed to take Druids now?

Eyonix: Please keep in mind that WoW is not balanced around one on one PvP. The developers envision the Warlock as a class that is very powerful at losing in PvP, and very important for select encounters in Molten Core. For the most part, they are satisfied with your ability to fill this role.

Caydiem: In response to complaints about endgame viability of Druid's cat form, the attack power bonus is being increased from 120 to 125. The developers believe this will make the cat a more appealing choice for high level druids.

Rogue: WTF Blizzard? 5 more AP for Druids? Thats like .3 DPS! Are you trying to make Rogues even MORE useless in Molten Core?

Druid: Will we ever get a skill like the Priest's Fade, or an out of combat rez?

Priest: STFU Druid! You can have Fade when we get Innervate!

Rogue: Your MOM has Innervate!

Caydiem: The developers are happy with the Druid class's healing abilities as they are. There are no plans to implement Fade or an out of combat rez for Druids. As always, I will keep you informed if I recieve any new information.

Druid: Thanks Cay, You're the best!

Caydiem: Thanks guys! I try!

Fangtooth: Hold on a sec guys, let me change my forum sig real quick.

*Fangtooth has gone AFK*

Eyonix: Next up are Hunters

Caydiem: Hunters are at the top of the developer's list right now, even though we just talked about Mages and Druids first. Currently there are plans to make pets more diverse and useful in both PvP and PvE. The devs are also investigating the possibility of changing the way the dead zone works, but unfortunately I cannot give you any specifics. You can expect changes to your class to occur slowly over the next few patches, and to be outpaced by other class changes. However, rest assured the devs are not ignoring you.

Eyonix: Now to you, Fangtooth.

Fangtooth: ...

Eyonix: Fangtooth?

*Fangtooth is no longer AFK*

Fangtooth: Oops, sorry. I'm back. What classes do I represent again? Oh right, Paladins and Priests? I had Priests, right? "Represent" is a pretty weird word, don't you think?

Priest: A better word would be "neglect".

Fangtooth: Thanks for the correction guys! I'm new to this priest stuff. Right now I'm farming Blackfathom Deeps for my Illusionary Staff. Hey by the way can priests learn to use daggers? Where would I go to train that?

Priest: Um... right. Okay. We have some concerns... specifically that the Holy tree is not only monotonous, it's downright weak compared to the other two... and--

Fangtooth: I think Shadow is a great tree! I just got Mind Wave! Or was it Mind Stun?

Paladin Shadow priests own everything! Always! Nerf Shadow Priests!

Priest: You mean Mind Flay? Thats great Fang. So, about Psychic Scream... given that everyone seems to hate fear, including the developers, we aren't really comfortable having it as our only defensive spell that works in PvP. Can we maybe see some new options? Perhaps making Fade do something in PvP?

Fangtooth: The developers do not feel that giving everyone a trinket that instantly breaks fear is going to have a significant impact on the classes that rely on fear to survive. Remember, if you are getting attacked, you can always use fear and send everyone running!

Priest: You just disproved your own point! That was at least six logical fallacies!

Fangtooth: I think its time to change my sig again.

Priest: Do you plan on fixing the Vampiric Embrace bug?

Eyonix: Bug? I don't know of any bug. Did you report it?

Priest: I paged a GM...

Eyonix: Haha, thats not how you report a bug!

Fangtooth: Where have you BEEN, man?

Priest: I'm sorry?

Eyonix: The proper way to report a bug is to figure out a way to exploit it, and use it to your advantage. As soon as someone reports the exploit, it'l be hotfixed within 24 hours.

Priest: Oh... I see. But... how can I exploit the fact that Vampiric Embrace is healing less than it is supposed to?

Fangtooth: ... so the other day I dueled this hunter two levels above me with my Priest... I was like, "mrglglglgahhh" and he was like "whoooa" and I was like "SMITE!" and he was like "WING CLIP" and I was like "Healing Wave!" and he was like "ARROWED!" and then I was like "LEEEeeeeRoyyyyYY!"

Everyone: That's not funny anymore.

Eyonix: Props for creative use of capital letters though...

Fangtooth: Thanks Eyo, you get PW:F!

Fangtooth: Anyway, In response to the fact that the Holy tree is worthless, we're going to make Holy Nova have a 60 second cooldown instead of 5 seconds. No wait, just kidding, 30 seconds. And now instead of reducing aggro, it just doesn't generate any. I think that's what they told me to tell you. I hope this addresses your concerns. Now I will ignore your class forum for the next 9 weeks. Goodbye!

Priest: Bummer. Guess I'll be speccing shadow.

Warrior: Idiot! Your job is to heal! All priests should go Holy from day one!

Priest: Yeah, sortof like all warriors go Protection since your job is tanking. Oh, wait...

Fangtooth: What does PW:F stand for?

Warrior: I'm Arms/Fury!

Priest: Who'd have guessed?

Fangtooth: I love my job!

Mage: Nerf Dispel Magic!

Priest: Oh, shut up. You got Mage Armor.

Mage: Which is dispellable!

Rogue: Your MOM is dispellable.

Priest: We ask Fangtooth for mana regeneration so we can use spirit, our main stat... and what happens? Next patch, they give Mage Armor. To Mages.

Paladin: Hey, Priest. These forums aren't about sound reasoning or logical posts. Its just about who can shout the loudest!

Warrior: Yeah, that worked for us!

Mage: We needed Mage Armor! Aside from Conjure Water, Arcane Meditation, Evocation, and Mana Gems, our class has NO WAY to regenerate mana!

Priest: Boy, sounds like its a hard knock life for Mages when it comes to mana.

Fangtooth: I think I'm supposed to be representing some other class too, right? Was it Shamans?

Eyonix: No Fang, I got Shamans. Remember when the CM's played Rock Paper Scissors and you lost? Thats why you have to represent Paladins.

Fangtooth: That wasn't fair though! You Earth Shocked me in the middle of the game! I meant to do scissors!

Eyonix: Earth Shock is fair and you know it! Besides, it has a cooldown, so that makes it fair.

Caydiem: Yeah, Eyonix totally ninja looted the shaman class. It was "N" for all the CMs, but he ninja'd them and hearthed. Greedy *%&@#. Now we don't let him in the office Baron raids anymore. Hey... speaking of which... anyone want to help kill Rivendare? Full on rogues and pallies! Healers needed!

Priest: I already have four Devout Skirts with various libram enchants...

Fangtooth: Pal...uh...din... Are those still in the game?

Eyonix: Its like a Shaman, only its Alliance and it doesn't have Earthbind Totems.

Paladin: Or shocks.

Eyonix: Shamans have beefier heals too. No pun intended.

Fangtooth: No Earthbind? How do they LIVE?

Paladin: Actually, living is about the only thing we do well.

Fangtooth: Oh, right, right. I remember now. Yeah. Whats that one spell they use? Seal of Windfury? Or was it Command Aura. The one that makes them do damage.

Paladin: Seal of Command.

Fangtooth: Oh Right! That's it! The Command Totem! Um... the developers aren't changing it. Working as intended.

Paladin: Oh... okay.

Fangtooth: The purpose of the Paladin is to flip out and kill-- wait... No, thats rogues. Oh, yes. The purpose of the Paladin is to become invincible and annoy the ninjas.

Rogue: Thats ME!

Fangtooth: That means the Paladin is a Holy Warrior. No wait, Holy Supporter. Or was it Holy Buffer? *looks over at Eyonix*

Eyonix: (whispering to Fangtooth) We're just calling them defensive hybrids now.

Fangtooth: (whispering to Eyonix) I must have missed the memo.

Paladin: But... the class description said Holy Warrior!

Warrior: If you wanted to be a warrior, why did you roll a Paladin, moron?

Paladin: I just wanted to have fun and--

Warrior: Thats what I thought. Learn to play your class noob. Your job is to buff me so I can hurt things better. And leave the epic loot to people who can put it to good use.

Fangtooth: The developers believe you fill your role well by cleansing debuffs, which annoys the real support classes, healing your party for miniscule amounts, which annoys the real healers, and occasionally drawing aggro when your Blessing of Command... thingy... goes off, which annoys the real tanks. As such, the developers feel that aside from a few minor issues, the Paladin class is working as intended.

Shaman: So really, the best description would be "Holy pain in the #@&".

Eyonix: No... Well, okay, yes. I guess you got us there.

Paladin: Gee, thanks.

Warlock: At least you can shield+hearth

Paladin: Once an HOUR!

Warlock: STILL!

Paladin: My rogue alt can beat up your rogue alt.

Warlock: My alt is a shaman!

Paladin: ...crap. Well... I can shield+hearth!

Warlock: Once an HOUR!

Fangtooth: Well.. time for me to head out.

Priest: Wait, Fangtooth! What about Spirit? Why do priest's have no special skills that make use of our primary stat?

Fangtooth: I don't think I ever represented you... did I?

Priest: You have a Priest toon!

Fangtooth: Oh, you mean my shadow mage? Hold on, I need to change my sig again.

*Exit Fangtooth*

Priest: I think I need to join some kind of post-Fangtooth support group...

Paladin: Count me in.

*Exit Paladin*

Eyonix: Hey, at least the Paladins take those fast 2H weapons that nobody else wants... like the Shadowstrike... and the Arcanite Champion.

Warrior: Yeah, I guess that is a plus. I'd hate to have to take a Shadowstrike as my epic on a pickup MC raid.

Mage: Dude, giving Shadowstrike to a Paladin is a waste of perfectly good shards. Those things sell for like... four gold!

Hunter: Thats a hunter weapon!

Rogue: Stupid greedy @#$ hunter noob ninja. You punks roll on everything. Caster necks, daggers, Polearms, 2H axes... Eyonix: Its a well known fact that everything is wasted on Hunters.

Hunter: Hey! Stop perpetuating the stereotype! I almost never roll on staffs.

Warlock: (mutters something about an aimed shot crit)

Hunter: (mutters something about a one in a million chance)

Warlock: (mutters something about farming soul shards)

Eyonix: Hey! Is that a warlock? Look everyone! A warlock!

*Crowd oohs and aahs*

Eyonix: I didn't we still had people playing those. You should get a historic vehicle license plate for that toon. You guys are like collectors items these days.

Warlock: Sorry, I can't wear plate.

Eyonix: Oh, too bad you're not a Shaman... they're getting plate next patch to bring them up on par with Paladins.

Paladin: (yelling from somewhere off the stage) WHAT?!

Eyonix: Hah! Just kidding.

Paladin: Not Funny.

*Caydiem's cell phone begins to ring*

Caydiem: Sorry guys, I have a meeting with the devs about how to improve Druids. Gotta go!

*Exit Cadiem*

Eyonix: Anyway, we're just wanted to reassure you that the developers ARE indeed in the pre-planning stages of thinking about possibly implementing an in-house test that involves some sort of soul shard bag. Well, not really a bag. Actually, it's really more of a purse. And it has to be equipped in the off hand. And if you leave the shards in it too long, they start to melt through the bottom of the purse... and then you have to pay a tailor to repair it. And if you don't it eventually starts dropping soul shards out onto the ground... and once they touch the ground, the spoil, just so you know. But the animation for them falling out looks really cool. Oh yeah, and the purse itself has to be summoned... which costs two shards. And it disappears after you log out. Also, carrying the bag applies the Weakened Soul debuff, so you can't be shielded by a priest while you are using the Soul Purse. Anyway I hope you like the idea! We'll be sure to tell you more about the soul purse before we scrap the idea and then reinvent it in a way that more explicitly benefits Shamans. Obviously, the inconvenience of having to carry 20 or more shards shards pales in comparison to having to carry four reusable totems and a couple reagents.

Warlock: Is that all?

Eyonix: Hmm... well, we're thinking about giving them Bloodthirst back as well.

Warlock: I meant is that all for the WARLOCKs?

Eyonix: Oh, right. Well, we're also adding a new talent in Demonology that allows you to further enlarge the... er... features... of the succubus. With a full 5 points, it requires an additional soul shard to summon her, due to all the extra, um... mass. But again, she looks really cool, so its totally worth it.

Warlock: Wow, that'll get me into a lot of pickup groups with 14 year olds... Especially since the succubus is sooooo useful in groups. Thanks!

Mage: Hey, thats not fair, now the 14 year olds will never take mages for AoE anymore!

Priest: I wish I would stop getting stuck in groups with 14 year olds...

Rogue: Hey, some 14 year olds are more mature than some adults!

Priest: Yeah, "Some."

Rogue: WHOA, look at that succubus! How does she even stand up?

Shaman: Hey, I kindof liked that plate armor idea. And stackable totems would be great, now that you mention it.

Eyonix: I'll pass that along to the devs at my next meeting.

Shaman: Any idea how long that will be?

Eyonix: We have Shaman meetings every Tuesday and Thursday.

Warlock: What about other classes?

Eyonix: Hmm, lets see... Rogues are Wednesday mornings, Druids are Friday afternoons, Paladins we have on the second Monday of odd numbered months... unless we feel like going out for coffee, in which case we skip them. Warriors don't have a weekly meeting, but we dedicated a whole month to them a little while back and they're pretty much happy now. Oh, and everyone else gets lumped into the monthly company picnic where the devs just randomly make changes to those classes based on whatever they happen to overhear us CM's chatting about in between bites of Quizno's toasted subs.

Warrior: Hey, just curious, how do those meetings usually work?

Eyonix: Well, whenever there is a proposed change to a class or ability, we have to think about "the big picture". Unlike players, we have to worry about the larger scale of game balance that could be thrown off by even the slightest mistake. With that in mind, the first question we ask is "How will this change affect Shamans?". From there, its a simple matter of implementation and testing. For example, what other game have any of you played that has a capture the flag gametype wherein one team has the ability to drop an item that slows all enemy players within a large area to half speed, while the other side gets nothing? As far as we can tell, WoW is the only game that gives this ability to one team but not the other. This may seem unfair at first, but it is important to remember that nobody forces you to play on any specific team. In the end, it really came down to the single unifying question that determines all gameplay balance decisions: "Will this benefit the Shaman?" The answer to this question, of course, is 42.

Shaman: Hey, thats good to know. I noticed that while shamans are hybrids, we don't have the ability to stealth like rogues and druids do.

Eyonix: We're waaay ahead of you. I can't give details yet, but lets just say that you'll be very pleased with patch 1.7. But with that out of the way, lets get back to class issues. Lets see... what do we have left? Rogues, Shamans, and Warriors... any questions?

Rogue: ... Well, um. Us rogues have suffered in obscurity for months now... see, we have major class problems. For example, many rogues are nearly ready to slit their wrists over the fact that the dagger build just isn't quite as good as the sword build. Worse still, recent data suggests that the fist weapon build might even be inferior to the dagger build. These are the kinds of game-breaking issues us rogues have had to deal with while other classes are getting pointless tweaks such as having their primary stat made useful to them...

Priest: Actually, they never fixed that for us. They gave it to mages instead.

Mage: And it can be dispelled!

Priest: For the love of mana, shut UP. Nobody CARES.

Rogue: ...while all those poor rogues who are specced for fist weapons are just wasting away in the shadows... Second complaint: It took me.. like... six... no wait... seven tries to get the Barman Shanker. That was like, wayyyy boring, and it made me late to school once. Please make it drop 100% of the time.

Priest: Oh, boy, I feel sooo sorry for you poor fist weapon rogues.

Rogue: Not only that, but in the endgame, Eviscerate, being flat damage, becomes less and less useful due to the fact that weapon damage has no effect on it.

Mage: Imagine if you had a whole skill book full of flat damage abilities...

Rogue: Boy, would that suck. I'm glad its only one of my abilities...

Mage: Oh, the irony...

Rogue: You know, sometimes I get this feeling when people are talking... I feel like words are going over my head, and I'm not really understanding them.

Mage: You should try wearing more INT gear. How much do you have now?

Rogue: How much what?

Mage: Intellect. Look at your character screen.

Rogue: Oh... INT. I have 26.

Mage: Whoa, thats really low... No wonder you have no idea what anyone is talking about... I have like 400 INT and I can understand Orcish!

Rogue: Hey, maybe I'll try that... do you think lots of INT would go well with a fist weapon build?

Priest: Definitely.

Rogue: How could I get more INT.

Priest: I'm partial to Magisters... but if you want to stick to leather for the AC, you might want to try out Wildheart.

Rogue: Wildheart has air conditioning? Wow! Thanks for the tips guys!

*Exit Rogue*

Eyonix: Hey, that just leaves Warriors and Shamans. What do you think of your class?

Warrior: Oh, me? I'm cool. I'm just here for the free food afterwards. I have an Arcanite Reaper... so I'm fine. Thanks for asking though.

Eyonix: Is that it?

Warrior: Yep.

Eyonix: Alright, last but not least, the Shaman.

Hunter: Anyone else find it ironic that at this point, they haven't even brought Shamans up as an official topic yet, but they still managed to promise them more buffs than all other classes combined?

Warlock: Huh? Oh, right. Yeah, I got used to that a while ago. Its just the way things are.

Shaman: Well, basically, I think I'd like to get a class trinket that does the same thing as Arcane Power. Yeah. And maybe some new icons. Oh right, and the Air Totem quest is really dull.

Priest: Wait... you guys have class quests? Whats a class quest? How come I don't have any class quests?

Fangtooth: You got class racials instead!

Priest: Yeah, thanks. Elune's Grace is a real consolation to me. Why don't you just call it "Purge Shielding" so people know to hide their good buffs underneath it.

Shaman: Oh, right, and Healing wave is weak. So is Chain Heal.

Eyonix: Tell you what, we'll buff up healing wave to make it like Greater Heal, only with a shorter cast time. Then we'll make Chain Heal into something more like Prayer of Healing, only we'll give it a 50% chance to crit.

Priest: Wait, I have a bad feeling about this!

Eyonix: Also, we're giving Shamans a level 60 epic quest that allows them to earn an epic Ghost Wolf spell, similar to Warlock's and Paladin's epic mounts. The Spirit Wolf spell will be similar to Ghost Wolf, only it will increase speed by 70% instead of 40%. The Spirit Wolf cannot be dispelled, and automatically comes with true invisibility, water walking, and slow fall. It is immune to polymorph, and it can be reactively used to break polymorph. It can be instant cast using natures swiftness.

Shaman: Wait, water walking? What if I want to swim?

Eyonix: Thats why we're giving you a swimming travel form as well!

Shaman: Cool! But the important question is... will the Spirit Wolf form have a dancing animation?

Eyonix: Yes.

Druid: NO FAIR! CAYDIEM!

Caydiem: What is it, baby?

Shaman: Whoa, I thought she left!

Eyonix: She is magical. She does this to us at the office. It creeps us out.

Druid: I want a dancing epic travel form tooooo!

Caydiem: Consider it done, my blessed child.

Priest: Maaan, some classes get the coolest CM's

Fangtooth: Hey guys, I can burp the ABC's in a murloc voice!

Priest: Please someone, kill me now.

Shaman: Will the Spirit Wolf have the ability to fly?

Eyonix: Yes, the Spirit Wolf will have the ability to fly for a limitied period of time.

Shaman: Aww, limited? I know you can do better, Eyonix...

Eyonix: Also, casting any lightning spell such as Lightning Bolt, Lightning Shield, and Chain Lightning will not break stealth.

Warlock: Wait, you're giving them STEALTH?

Eyonix: Curses, they're onto us!

Shaman: We'd better switch to our secret code language!

Eyonix: [shamanese] Okk moggi frenn della.

Shaman: [shamanese] Zat! [Hand of Ragnaros]!

Hunter: Hunter weapon!

Mage: Alright, this is getting really weird.

Priest: Since when do they get their own LANGUAGE?

*Shaman begins to cast Portal to Developer Island*

*Exit Eyonix and Shaman*

Caydiem: Well... I guess that's that. This concludes the meeting!

*Exit Priest, Hunter, Rogue, Druid, Caydiem, Fangtooth, Mage, and Warrior.*

Warlock: Buff Warlocks please.

Warlock: Bump.

Warlock: Wow... 18 views and still no responses...

Warlock: Bump.

Shaman: Learn to play your class, noob.

eto ovo moze donekle da prikaze shta ce biti u razgovrima po ovom forumu narednih 5 meseci min, smeshno je da je prva i poslednja recenica shamiju "Learn to play your class, noob ,tako palishe kenjaju po aliansi, gde god da krenem ugazim u njihova govna , pa ih posle bijem shto su nevaljali i seru svuda :)

[miwi]

:))))) super je ovo.A igram isto sto i ti Warr, ma samo mi malo dosadilo da pljuju ove pa reko da obrate paznju na Druide malo,:).Ma poenta je da posle 60 lvl ovo postaje bas grupna igra kao sto rekoh party i raid,tako da je bitno da na 60 lvl svi znaju da igraju svoj char,kao sto nije uvek tako :)).Ma svaki lik je tako kreiran da pomogne u party ili raidu tako da je izlisno pricati o tome da neko nije potreban.Pitanje za tebe posto si malo iskusniji sta mislis kako treba da izgleda talent build za warr na 60 lvl :) pozdrav.

[/7ETPOC]

znaci celo jutro se kidam od smeha, posle leroy-a najzabavnja stvar koju sam video za wow, Fangtooth je kralj

[GriM ReapeR]

SPIRIT WOLF FTWWWWWWWW!!!!!! ^^

[Kole]

hehehe extra, mnogo funny 'cause it's true momenata (inache zaista, an svakog jednog normalnog dolazi 10 hatera koji bi hteli svako oruzje u igri =o)) "i almost don't roll on staffs everytime"...ono zlo jedno kakvih kretena ima (mada tuga i nevolja je sto cu izgleda morati da, kao hanter, nabavljam dalrenda jer je set bolji (veci atack i crit bonust+aditional armor i defence) od dve bone slicing axe koje sada nosim =o(( lichno sumnjam da ce hantere nesto da budzhe...moja teorija zavere kazhe da je hanter poslednja klasa ubachena u igru zato sto je bio totalno imba pa su ga sakatili dok nije postao ovakav (a to je da do 55og nivoa mozhe sam da leveluje ko lud =o))

[Immortalis]

@miwi ako si u dobrom guildu radite mc and stuff, lvl 60 si idesh na defence talente, ako si pvp orjentisan idesh na arms/fury, fury su upropastili poslednjim patchem, zadnji skull su unistili , stavili su neko instant cast sranje koje troshi 30 !!!! ragea udara neki jadan dmg i i vrati ti nekih 100 hp-a overtime valjda, totalno sam se razocarao. U bg sam pre mogao da napravim vishe killing blowa sa njim sad nemoze nishta. Znaci idesh na arms stignesh do zadnjeg skilla i ostalo na fury.

[Shale]

looooooooool !!!!!!!!! gde iskopa ovo leba ti koma je :D

Spirit wolf form :DDDDD hahahaha znachi samo sa ga zamislio kako leti i bilo je gotovo, zagrcnuo sam se od smejanja ! ! !

[mohican]

Morao sam ovo da napisem znaci pljujete po Pali , Shamanu i Priestu te ovakvi su te onakvi.Zar niko ne shvata da nije sve u pvp jedan na jedan neko je u jednom topiku sve lepo objasnio da svako moze svakog da dobije a najvaznije je da neko ko igra lika treba da zna da igra.Sve je u glavi.Svaki lik je vazan za party ne moze uvek da se pogodi party koji svima odgovara tako da je najvaznije da lik zna da igra,bez obzira na rasu i klasu.Posle 60 lvl ostaju inst  i bg  znaci party i raid  a ne jedan na jedan.Toliko o tome.A vec kad spominjete po losem ove gore navedene obratite paznju malo na Druide  dps cat, armor bear, heal,spelovii baff i novi patch :).A ovo se sad tice samo Mohicana  molim te ne vredjaj druge ljude i  druge gildove  zaviri malo u svoj  pitaj kako su se poneli u DM areni, a pre toga su dobili veliku pomoc,u areni i ispred instance od ljudi koje su zajebali,ne samo zajebali vec se poneli veoma, veoma ruzno.Btw znas dosta o igri ali nisi je ti izmislio a da procenis ljude i da se lepo ponasas tu si nula.

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Eh sto vas volim tako tajanstvene ... ti si na shadow moonu alijansa/horda za pocetak ? Btw odakle ti uopste da uzmes mene sad u usta ? koja tema je pokrenula ovo i ko si uopste ti?

Licno ne znam sta se desilo u diremaul areni i tesko da mogu da saznam osim ako mi ti ne kazes posto imamo tipa 100 lvl60 likova i pojma ja nemam ko je to mogao da uradi sta god bilo u pitanju.

Sto se tice napusavanja gildi ... za boat folk znam od ortaka koji su bili u istom pa su zapalili, sto se tice dragonkina bejah u istom i videh a neke druge gilde ne znam da sam napusavao osim sto na svakom koraku napusavam salvation army na shadow moon aliance zato sto su gejchine najvetje doduse ima par ok likova ...

A sto se tice igre i napusavanja ljudi ... igram ovu igru previse dugo ako mene pitas i znam podosta o njoj i onda tako dodje neko i pocne da mi soli pamet kako warrior pere druida (taj war je bio lvl40 tad) onda dodje neki druid koji me ubedjuje da weapon utice druidu na dmg u bear formi (tad je bio u zulfaraku znaci minimum lvl45+) i tako onda dodje shaman koji kaze da nema sanse shaman da dobije paladina i slicne baljezgarije i kako da ih ne napusis ... Pazi poenta je sto oni nisu bili u fazonu e ja mislim da to tako ide i da to ovako moze nego su bili u fazonu e brate ja znam veruj mi sigurno 100% garantujem itd itd a blage veze nemaju sa zivotom. Tako da ja takvu aroganciju baziranu na neznanju mogu samo da ismevam a kome se ne svidja moze samo da tjuti ako nesto ne zna o tematici. Mislim ja generalno slabo znam recimo warriore posto me ne zanimaju i nikad ih nisam igrao ali znam sta koriste kad me napadaju i o tome mogu da kenjam a o onome sto ne znam ne mogu niti ikad kenjam ...

Sto se tice druida od svega onoga sto si nabrojao realni plusevi druidu su samo bear armor class i heal ovo ostalo je osrednje sve a cat dps je smesan ... tolki dps ima defence specovan war sa 1h weaponom .. najvetji + catforme je stealth

BTW cisto da ne zaboravis glavna pitanja ovog posta su ko si ti i sta oces od mene :P

[Immortalis]

NERF DRUIDS !!!!! hahaha :) . Polako ljudi bice balansa, druidi jesu jaku u ondosu na neke klase, i to mnogo , svako ko kaze drugacije je druid ili neki lowbie ! Opet kazem bice balansa, samo treba sacekati malo.

[mohican]

Realno da druid ima prednost nad vetjinom klasa tj preformulisacu jedini problem druidu su paladin i shaman ... naravno koji znaju da igraju posto znam sta obe ove klase imaju i da sam ja jedna od njih mene druid nikad ne bi dobio ...

[Immortalis]

jedini problem druidu su paladin i shaman

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pa o tome pricamo imbalance je to shto su tebi samo shamy i pala problem. I ovo shto raspravljamo je u prazno, smisla ima samo na oficijelnim forumima gde ce neki developer neshto ,mozda da slucajno procita.

Edited July 18, 2005 by Immortalis

[mohican]

Pa da ali isto tako mene i rogue i mag imaju sansu da dobiju dok ja shamana ako zna da igra nema sanse a isto tako da igram shamana ne bih imao problem ni sa jednom klasom tako da mu to dodje malo veci imba nego druid ...

[MikroStalja]

Ovo za druida vs. shammy je tacno. Dueli nam traju po par minuta i da nemama tauren stomp nikad se ne bi ni zavrsio. Inace nikad od druida shammy ne bi smeo da izgubi ako zna da igra. Takodje - vs paladin - zavisi od opreme ali kad windfury procuje pala je xD! Stvarno dobar shaman (dobro opremljen ili pro igrac) je nepobediv vs pala. Nazalost takav nikad nisam bio :P. Mag mora da uradi sve savrseno da bi me ubio. Takodje priest. Inace padaju ko pleva cak i za mene semi nooba. Shaman je super anti caster. Warrior - e tu mnogo sreca odlucuje. Warrior sa dobrim oruzjem i dobrim specom me zavrsava u roku od 10 sekundi. Ako uspem da ga kite-ujem dobro onda on pada za 10 sekundi. Ali warrior zna da bude posten problem posebno dobro opremljen. Rogue meni licno predstvlja veliki problem. Posebno kada me stun lockuje. Onda je pisi propalo. Pravo da vam kazem od huntera nisam ni jednom izgubio - mada njih je malo bilo stvarno kvalitetnih kad sam igrao. Warlocka je isto bilo malo za duel i vise sam pobedjivao nego gubio. Succubus me jednom sredio bez problema npr. Suma sumarum iz mog iskustva je da mogu da izgubim u 1v1 duelima od dobrih igraca svaki put. Ja sam stvarno prosecan igrac da se ne lazemo - sto samo pokazuje da je shaman IMBA jer samo kvalitetni igraci mogu da me pobede kad god hoce.

Ono u cemu je shaman stvarno los je mass pvp (osim ako nije u dobrom timu). Dakle kad smo se klali u Tarren-u pre BG - kuku meni i mom IMBA shamanu. Dobro ajde nisam bio PvP speced ali u masi sam beskoristan skoro. Sta su nam warriori radili sa recimo dobrim priestom u grupi pa to je bruka.

Sa druge strane u PvE raidovima i grupama dobar shaman zlata vredi. Secam se da sam u trenutku kad sam najbolje igrao (dakle negde posle 3 meseca intezivnog osmocasovnog svakodnevnog igranja) u Onyxia raid-u bio 5. healer i pored 8 priestova ( healing speced shammy). Da ne pricamo o reinkarnaciji ili off tankingu kada je shaman enchantment speced ili o damagu kada je element speced.

Da sumiram - shaman jeste pomalo imba - da je nepobediv - nije - da je dobar - dobar je. I ima pomalo istine u toj shali o learn your class. Za one koji znaju svoju klasu shaman je samo jos jedna klasa u nizu.

Nego da vas pitam - posto nisam bio par meseci na WoW-u - jel bio neko u Blackweing lair-u i kako je - da okaci neke shotke i to...

[Immortalis]

samo da potvrdim da su u pravu za warriora, borba netraje duze od 15 sec , za to vreme moram da se iskikcem ko lud, gomila macroa, promena stanceova itd ,itd, i na kraju shamy mozda legne, jedino lagano mogu da ga ubijem za nekih 10 sec kad mi je spreman recklessness, a cd je 30 min, npr wsg traje 30 min prosek, ako su obe strane ujednacene, znaci ja jednom u 30 min mogu da ubijem shamana, sve ostalo je na srecu, a miss da ne pominjem kod warriora, mnogo se cesto deshava, sad jurim obsidian edged blade poshto daje Equip: Increased Two-handed Swords +8,

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=39565 , malo je prebrzo za warriora, ali moze da prodje zbog bonusa na streinght i poveci dmg. Trebalo bi da udara kao ar, samo malo brze :)

[mohican]

Pazi shaman makar ima chain lightning cisto da uzicka nekoliko fragova a druid ni to nema jedino 3.5 sec 500 dmg starfire i moonfire spam koji se bash ne isplati za manu i nije bash mass pvp spell ... tako da u mass pvpu druid jedino kao healer i da rootuje nekog ko se napravio pametan i izleteo napred ...

A ovo oruzje je ruzno u 3pm :(

[amoskg]

Mohi, kako ti izalzis na kraj sa priestovima, mene oni razvalise 1 na 1?

[GriM ReapeR]

i tako onda dodje shaman koji kaze da nema sanse shaman da dobije paladina i slicne baljezgarije i kako da ih ne napusis

Jesi ti ovo samo lose napisao ili je neko ovo stvarno izvalio ?

BTW....mass pvp....sa 21/9/21 buildom koji je dobar i za PvP i za PvE (probao sam sve moguce i jos nisam odlucio koji cu definitivno da koristim mada vrlo moguce da ostane ovaj...preko talenata dobijes tacno +11% na lightning spells crit chance....Meni je po statovima i ostalo spell crit% oko 10% mozda malo preko.....znaci za lightning spellove oko 21% sanse na crit....e sad posto je sa tim buildom pokupljen i "Elemental Fury" talenat koji dodaje 100% dmg bonus na critical hitu (prostije crit nekog spella je 2*base vrednost tog spella) chain lightning ima 21% sanse za crit od oko 1000 pa neretko i do 1200 DMG(ovo je samo na prvoj meti u chainu)....Nije bas ni puko "zickanje" :)))

[miwi]

He he neznam odakle da pocnem a da ne odem mnogo siroko pokusacu da skratim.Posto me pita sta hocu od tebe samo jednu stvar nemoj da siris vise lazi o DK rece da si bio tamo,ali zapitaj se koliko dugo nisi tamo i da li znas sta se desava uopste.Bio sam tamo kad si ti bio i jos sam,mada tada nisam igrao puno pa nisam ni znao ljude.E sad ako kazes da znas sta se desava onda te neko namerno laze ili ti namerno lazes nema druge.Nije lepo da blatis ceo DK ako ti imas nesto licno protiv dva ili tri coveka,ne ide.Znaci u DK niko ne bleji na 60 lvl to je cista laz,ako si ti to radio pre 3 meseca i ako je tako bilo uopste tada, sada nije.Znaci ako vec moras da spominjes DK,posto to niko nemoze da ti zabrani,onda bar kazi da pricas iz perspektive od vise od 3 meseca.Posto ovo sto pricas o DK nema veze sa istinom,sem jedne stvari da jesmo oslabljeni ali da one veceri niste otisli sad bi verovatno bili jedan od najvecih gildova.Eto toliko a sta ti imas protiv pojedinih ljudi u gildu je tvoja stvar,jos jednom sta hocu,ne pricaj neistine o DK.A ako slucajno neznas o cemu pricam procitaj sve gde si spominjao DK i bice ti jasno.Takodje ja protiv tebe nemam nista,cak te ni neznam ali znam samo da pricas neistine o DK a mrzim kad neko prica iste.Ha sad se setih pa kako mozes uopste da znas sta se desava u DK kad neznas sta se desava u tvom gildu,toliko o tome o poznavanju prilika.

[mohican]

Moji komentari na aktivnosti dragonkina su bazirani na tome sto vas nema nigde po serveru ... sto radite instance sa random grupama ... sto je meni dzafar tipa pre nedelju dana rekao "evo pokusavam ih nateram na neke instance nesto" i slicno ...

Pazi necu ja da omalovazavam nikoga ali ste sto se tice igre svetlosnim godinama iza nas a sto se tice desavanja u gildi ja nisam gm niti oficir da bi pazio sta ko radi a vi ako ste za nesto uskraceni imate pravilnik na sajtu oor-a po kome nijedan clan oora ne sme da blabla ljude iz drugih gildi pa onda lepo pmujte nekog oficira ili gma oora pa se zalite mene zabole uvo ionako nisam vise tamo ...

A dkin nikad ne bi bio niti ima sanse da bude veliki gild zato sto nema ni najosnovnija pravila ...

Samo sebi uskracujete od igre ...

PS: i dalje mi nisi rekao svoj ingame nick .... to sto si iz dkina i ne pomaze mnogo ...