ZeRoX-

ti si xwolfe budala

s tim jadnicima ne smes da se pozdravis jer ces da im slomijes ruku,a pretnja = srcka.

i onda igra normalne partije i dodje mu vladica i prebije ga na ovu foru...bolje da izgubi 10 i nauci da to pobedi...

GOGO Duke !

A deadly strategy created by MagicYang during WEG Season 1, perfected by Spirit_Moon himself Demon hunter harrassing your hero early game, while making archers and powercreeping with the beastmaster when he reached tier2, after that ancients of the wind go up, tier3 is coming, firelord from the tavern and cyclone is researched The mass talons strategy in a nutshell. As an orc player you're having a difficult time dealing with this strategy, but there are options for the orc: (Later on I while go through with the hero choices, but for now an in-depth for the unit choices) 1. "Korean counter" (Most Korean orc players tend to use this) Grunts - raiders - spirit walkers; Already used during 1.18, this combination is even more effective since 1.20 with the spirit walkers having resistant skin. An advantage of this strategy is that you can dispel the cyclone and still have grunts and raiders by your side and try to kill those talons. Hard thing is that you won't be having much units of each of these 3 so microing these 3 units is difficult against a good night elf-user. One advantageous push for night elf means basicly gg for you 2. "Grubby counter" (Grubby's counter of the strategy, used by the fanboys, executed properly by very few) Grunts - MASS raiders; Default early build with multi-tasking harrassing-creeping before tier2. When tier2 is reached build dual beastiaries (build your base in a way so your beastiaries are in the back) Once these are completed, start pumping out raiders massively. Raiders have siege damage, so exploit it and try to attack his base and take out moonwells and maybe other buildings (maybe even force a tp) but you must also fight the talons at some point. Try to run into the army and let some raiders get cycloned and run away, the night elf will hereby use up all the dott's mana at some point. That is the point when you want to strike. Advantage is that you can mass ensnare and kill of many low hp-units (archer + dotts). Disadvantage on the other hand is that you can be killed very easily by the mass summons and hit and run while trying to "burn" the dotts mana is very hard to do. You also won't be having a dispel possibility. 3. "a_headaches counter" Headhunters - witch doctors (master) - spirit walkers (master as option) Altar, burrow, 190 wood -> go tier2. Build warmill, barracks and another burrow. Start making headhunters. Once tier2 is reached get the naga sea witch and try to push the elf (this situation is similiar as the human naga elf push) This won't win the game but maybe put you in an advantageous situation. Build dual spirit lodges and get witch doctors and spirit walkers. When tier3 is reached, get TC with stomp and healing. This strategy is very useful because of both the healing/dispelling and piercing damage, but hard to execute because all of your units are low hp and you will have no ensnare. 4. "The tier2 push" (Ending the game before the night elf will have a Tree of Eternity and thereby no Cyclone) Grunts - catapults - raiders Early game is basic creeping and avoiding getting manaburned. In the proces to tier2, build a warmill, just before reaching tier2 you should have 1 demolisher. When you're at tier2, get second hero and go to the night elf. Try to put up some towers and get those ancients of the wind while they are building. Hard pressure is needed and especially the beastmaster which is there when you're in his base will give you the trouble. If you don't win this push, it's gg Hero choices: BM - TC: Commonly used hero combination Reasonable damage, but the BM dies fast, caution needed with this hero. Try to put a mana pot on the TC FS - TC: Chainwave, obviously FS is pretty useless early game though. BM - SH: Hero focusfiring; picking out low level night elf hero's with windwalk and hex. Damage against the units is not so good. (wNv.xiaOt does this excellent though, watch his replay in a laddergame vs Spirit_Moon) Tips: Try to strike the night elf when he's trying to put up his ancients of the wind, that will cost him precious time and resources. Try to remember that when you're TC is out, he's building those ancients. Go with your whole army or attack with your BM while multi-task creeping with your TC. Early game goal is picking out archers, so dust of appearence is highly recommended Replays (Examples of the above executed counters) to watch and learn from: 1. SK.Zacard, mouz.BenQ.Romeo and sometimes 4K^Grubby replays during inCup. 2. Famous ESWC 2005 Finals match: 4K^Grubby vs SK.Deadman SK.ElakeDuck tends to use this too. Also watch the excellent 3rd game of the showmatch 4K^Grubby vs Spirit_Moon 3. mouz.BenQ.FarSeers replays during StarWars vs ReMinD and SoJu on Lost Temple and Turtle Rock 4. fnatic.RotterDaM replays or the 4th game of the showmatch of 4K^Grubby vs Spirit_Moon Hope this information has been useful to you, hf

elf uvek moze da izvuce vise expanda od humana i counteruje mu sve.jedino ako smara sa tenkicima onda mnogo teze ali opet moze.Deadman sabija to

http://asialadders.battle.net/war3/ladder/...me=NicholasMoon samo da ne bude da serem ja pogledate i FGL da vidite da lik stvarno objasnjava...

ali zato mu partije koje dobije traju 8 min...

a kako ce da counteruje talone o pametni Gogo? talons 3-1 grubby... toliko o skillu...i dalje tvrdim da je Grubby najbolji igrac na svetu.

da a philbot ih je usavrsio...

Ma dobice ga Duke

meni je to igrao neki lik,znaci dobio sam ga na 6-6 heroje...uopste nije taktika slaba...mass expanda,mass t1 sa upg,i vozdra...

a i kad ih izvadi,svi pobegnu onih par sekudni dok imaju manu a posle moras na skajl...

http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/wc3l/download/346945/

samo sam pomenuo radikale i svi poceli da me smaraju...zabole me za politiku bas,a i ako cemo REALNO(SRS logo,pa posle Highhl1 seri vs SRS-a :D),za vreme Slobe se bolje zivelo nego sada,sta se to popravilo od kad su ovi dosli na vlast?bolje plate?NE,bolji standard?NE,bolji zivot?samo na RTS1,tako da pustite me ovih prodanih dusa iz DOSa... @Razor : Ni ja ne podnosim Kostunicu,suntav je mnogo... OnTopic : Kad budete videli ovog lika kako igra videcete da nisam preterivao poredeci ga sa Susiriom...fazon losiji je od njega ali za nijansu.Voleo bih da djuk prodje,ali ako nastavi da vezba ladder kao do sada (10 partija) i ceo dan igajuci CGe sa onim likom sto ima minus skor,tesko da ce dobiti ista...

zato sam i stavio smajli...tako i na kladzi gubim pare... :D

jeste da svako vajnuje protiv svoje rase,bas zato kazem da human nije najslabiji,i da undeada moze da sabije na 3 nacina.am,mk,paladin,a kad bi ud poceo sa bilo kojim drugim herojem sem DKa to bi bilo jadno gledati...tako da postoji samo pitanje " Mozes li da kontriras ili ne?"

kao sto rekoh Grubby 2-3 Moon,znaci odmah sam prozreo rez

ima jos 1 partija...anyway Grubby>Moon,dosta je pametniji...pogledajte game 1 i 4 Grubby dobija partije i ovaj cigan dobija na imbu...kao sto bi Shiver rekao "Jebem ga usta kosooka"

bolje to nego za onog Tadica,kad mu vidis facu vidis da je retard...A i on ne upravlja drzavom tako da ...

necu da ispadne da sad tu ja nesto omalovazavam Dukea,ali Sweet se dosta namucio sa njim,bilo je 2-1 u CWu izmedju RyHa i WEa ,takodje imas cesto njegove replayeve na replaynsnetu tako da odgledaj pa prosudi sam...

to je nivo u odnosu na tvoju...

radikali su keva,a RyH.Nicholasa sam gledao,i u rangu je Susirie,ili tako nekoga,nije TOP ali je mnogo dobar...ali bi voleo da ga Djuk dobije

sta reche?!?

greene lud si,ryh.nicholas ce verovatno i zabosti SoJua mnogo dobar igrac,India 1st je nob cak sam ga ja dobio :D,SoJu je bolestan...tako da ono...