Silencer

Longtime virtual gamer Sara Andrews didn't know she would cause much of a ruckus when she began recruiting new members of her "World of Warcraft" virtual gaming guild, which mostly caters to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender players. In recruitment messages she posted on WoW, she wrote that the guild was not "'glbt only,' but we are 'glbt friendly.'" To WoW publisher Blizzard Entertainment, however, Andrews' message was out of bounds. The Irvine, Calif.-based game publisher said her recruiting was a violation of the game's harassment policy, specifically the section of that policy regarding sexual orientation. Andrews was quickly warned in an e-mail to stop recruiting inside the game and to take all such efforts to forums outside WoW's virtual world. Andrews was also warned that if she didn't stop recruiting for the guild inside WoW, she risked being banned from the game. In essence, Andrews and gay and lesbian rights advocates charge, Blizzard was trying to keep a lid on harassment in its gaming world by blocking players from doing things that could prompt other people to harass them. "Their (terms of service) statement was clearly crafted to protect the GLBT community," said Ron Meiners, a longtime virtual worlds consultant who has served as a community manager for companies like Ubisoft and There.com. "And I think they wanted to basically protect them in this instance, too. But they seem to have overstepped what was appropriate." Andrews said she thinks Blizzard, or at least the game master (company employees who control game play and make decisions about low-level controversies) who issued the warning, wasn't being fair. The harassment policy specifically prohibits language that "insultingly refers to any aspect of sexual orientation pertaining to themselves or others." Since Andrews was hardly insulting herself, she couldn't understand how or why the harassment policy was being applied to her. "I wasn't sure that it was Blizzard that felt this way at first," she said. "I kind of felt like a bad (game manager) took care of the situation poorly. But the more I see Blizzard backing up the decision, the more I believe Blizzard to be handling the situation poorly." With more than 5.5 million players since it was launched in 2004, WoW is arguably the most successful online fantasy game in America. So how it defines gaming rules and says what people can and cannot do can have a wide-ranging impact in virtual communities. A Blizzard spokesman said it was only trying to enforce a policy designed to protect all WoW members from being harassed. And in fairness, in a gaming world where many players are young, male and prone to hurling insults, that the company wants to avoid potential problems makes sense. "We encourage community building among our players with others of similar interests, and we understand that guilds are one of the primary ways to forge these communities," the company said in a statement. "However, topics related to sensitive real-world subjects--such as religious, sexual or political preference, for example--have had a tendency to result in communication between players that often breaks down into harassment." In an interview with CNET News.com, Blizzard public relations manager Gil Shif said that the company is reviewing the harassment policy and plans to modify it in the near future. The policy will likely be broadened, Shif said, to go beyond limiting prohibited language to that which is insulting and to include "any language that could result in situations where players are going to break down into harassing debate. It's just not appropriate for a gaming environment." To Andrews, however, Blizzard's position doesn't hold water in a game that provides keyboard commands that allow characters to say things like, "Homogenized? No way, I like the ladies!" "They state that they don't want mention of sexuality in their game, for fear it may cause people to harass others," Andrews said. "Yet they have things like this in the game already that (were) put there by them." To some observers of online games like WoW, Blizzard's decision to warn Andrews gets harassment protection backward. "It's often very hard to try to guide communities in positive directions," Meiners said. "I think they failed here. Cleary the issue blew up, causing more community difficulty. And I also think they sent a bad message to that community." Some gay rights advocates said Blizzard's theory that gay-oriented groups assigning such labels to themselves might invite harassment is the wrong way to go. "We recognize that stopping harassment is extremely important," said Brian Chase, a staff attorney at Lambda Legal, an organization that promotes civil rights for the GLBT community. "But the way to stop the harassment of gay people is to stop the harassers, not insist gay people be quiet." In any case, Andrews' guild, Oz, is hardly the only gay-oriented guild in WoW specifically, or in the broader world of online games. According to Alexander Sliwinski, who was first to write about Andrews' run-in with Blizzard, for In Newsweekly, a gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender newsweekly, WoW itself has eight GLBT guilds. Other online games, such as "EverQuest II," "City of Heroes" and "Final Fantasy XI" have them as well. Players "form whatever associations and social groups they would like" as long as they adhere to the company's rules of conduct, said Chris Kramer, public relations director for "EverQuest II" publisher Sony Online Entertainment. In other news: Those rules state that players agree not to transmit language that is "unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, that may be invasive of another's right of privacy or publicity, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable." The problem with parsing the meaning of such wording, especially in cases like Andrews', however, is that it leaves much to the discretion of individual game managers. Blizzard, of course, said that it is only trying to keep individual players or groups from being subject to harassment by others and that Andrews was only warned to stop recruiting for her guild in-game. It's an odd argument, say people like Meiners, Chase and San Francisco attorney Jason Schultz. "I think it's unfortunate that Blizzard has chosen to punish the very people who are discriminated against under their supposed 'harassment policy,'" said Schultz. "Queer folk (have) always been told to hide themselves and who they really are in the real world. I would hope that in these new online worlds, people wouldn't be punished for being honest about themselves." Preuzeto sa CNN

Ja kao admin sajta sam prezadovoljan prevodima, jer nazalost niko drugi i nije hteo da se cima oko toga sem one koje sam ti naveo na PM. To je inace bio dobrovoljan posao tako da nisam bio u stanju da platim prevodioce da mi prevedu brdo teksta. Uzmi ti prevedi sve ono, a da ne precam preveden ceo basic sa wow-europe.com koji nisam stigo jos da azuriram.

El reko neko da sam ironforge preveo "ajron forge" ? Procitaj moj post ponovo mislim da si pogresio malo... CITIRAM:

Nisam ja kriv sto imam smesan jezik :) I meni smesno zvuci prvi put kad sam procitao stormwind = vetroluj .... da ne pricam za ostale izraze al sam se navikao... Nije mi bila namera da nekog vredjam sorry ako sam to uradio. Tacnije jesam izvini sto sam te nazvao debilom :(

:) ehhehehe meni se vishe svidja neupokoljeni jebiga naviko vec.... Necu se svadjam oko toga offtopic je inace. Kako god ja se drzim svog a vi kako ocete :P

Ne nisam :) to je moj kolega :D I moj komsija iz zgrade :) long story necu o tome :) kako sta je odakle vazno je da ima i da se prodaje :D

Od samog starta bilo je dogovoreno da se ne koriste izrazi na sajtu undedovi hjumani stormvind ajronforg holi lajt ili ne znam ni ja sam kako u engleskom zargonu... Srpski sajt srpski prevod... ako ce da cita na engleskom nek poseti wow-europe.com, da sam teo da furam engleski onda ne bi dizao sajt i koristio bi europe-pvpgn.net za to... Inace moje novo delo na "Engleskom" http://www.enigma-guild.org :P wow-serbia.com je World of Worcraft Serbian community so svi prevodi idu na sprski jezik sem vesti koje se pustaju (Dugacke) jer me mrzi da prevodim :D Mislim da sam bio jasan. I Da ja vec u guild, u kojem sam imam Srbina koji ne zna engleski i kojem je bilo lepo da cita wow-serbia.com o klasama pa je gledao sta ce da bira i njemu je sajt pomogao. Sluzi isto ljudima koji neznaju engleski jezik.

Cccc. coveku koji se nasmejao za "neupokoljeni" Evo ti odgovor od sajta sto si mu se zamerio.... Ae palite zbog takvih kao sto ste vi necu ni forum da dignem na sajt, imam bolju vajdu od njega nego da slusam debile kao sto si ti i koji ne konta rec "lingvisti" i prevod su radila 3 coveka. A ti ako si pametan uzmi pa prevodi sve to na srpski. Firma koja sponzorise sajt mi je omogucila hosting, dobio wow kao poklon, plus jos neke sitnice, ja im se za to zahvaljujem i ex WSG guildu koji mi je pomogo na sajtu. Srdacan pozdrav

hahahahahha :) extra :)

Necu nikad zaboraviti 36 sati budnih grindajuci jebana sranja za Hide of the Wild :D

uh imam ctmod nego ovaj party frame sa Screenshotova sto sam gledo sa topica. Sad lepo ima se ubijem ako je to podesavanje u CTMOD

Nek mi neko kaze mod za party frame sto dodaje healt i mana pls trazim ga ko leba i evo sad vidim u screenshots da ga ljudi koriste. Pls recite mi naziv moda da skinem. Inace gz za otvaranje AQ i gl u 40 man raid :P

Pa prvo ako si pogledao ja sam taj koji je citao stari post iz septembra prosle godine?!?! Pogledaj post iz sepmtembra pa pogledaj sledeci sam ja :D Sad ce neko da kaze ja sam budala cita star postove, nisam nego sam search hyjal da ne bi otvorio temu koja je vec bila jer sam bio u njemu pre neki dan i nabacio screenshots :) pa sam sam ako si pogledao ubacio onaj shot underconstrucion blizzard co. :) Inace nisu zakrpili moguce je ceo moj guild je bio jedno vece tamo :) PvP-vali :)

ahahahahaahahahah :) GZ m8 :) nadam se da ces se ozeniti i imati brdo dece, pricaces im kako si ti bio hordu i radio MC BWL etc :) I oni ce na kraju biti jednog dana tvoji heroji paladini :P koji ce naslediti tvoje talente i zavrsiti sve istance u expension :)

ma najjaci shot ko oce shotove da vidi od hyjala uploadovacu... Mada mislim da ste vec svi bili tamo.

Prvo u MC bijemo magmadara pa nije proslo ni 15 minuta raspawn dogs pored njega ... svi WTF ? :) Ok krenemo MC ispocetka ?!?!? :( A sad sletim u jebani EPL Light kapelicu kad ono odjednom hordas na Fly mountu zajebava se :) SLika ove nije montaza http://www.europe-pvpgn.net/enigma/forum/i...&type=post&id=5 Los print screen ne znam sto je slika iz tri dela nisam montirao nista ali jasno se vidi da hordas jase fly mounta ... I ne leti ne znam gde nego tako ide po zemlji ko sa kojnem da ide

Taureni nose tange ? -> gej zar ne ? :)

Opusteno, to je samo paladin....

More :) Jebem ti sve kad sam video paladina koji je digo divine i odmah upotrebio HS da ne bi pogino onda mozete da zamislite tek tu situaciju...

Da znam ubuduce da ne zapocinjem teme o paladinima, avanturama i bilo sta sto ima veze sa WoW forumom :) A vidim da necu ni o shamanima jer ni oni nisu pozeljni... :) U svakom slucaju meni je lepo bilo i zeznaje mi je bilo kad se sletelo posle tog FPS-a jedno 3 taurena 60 lvl :) Tacnije 3 shamana :) i odleprsao kod svetog petra... Pitanje za nekog sto je rekao jos jedan paladin sto ne zna sta ce da radi ?!?!?! Izvini a sta druge klase rade tipa warlock 60 lvl koji ima pare boli ga k**** i ne zna sta ce sa sobom a ceka MC i ZG ? :) Ode na pice u kafanu iskljuci wow ??? Mada istina nisam imao sta da radim, jer sam cekao MC i ZG da radim.

ja mislim da je vec neko primio tu istu nagradu na ovom forumu.... :) Tako da je ja necu primiti :P

Sa sirom :D

Posto sam se smorio na 60 lvl ne znam sto :) radim vec 3 dana pala epic mount quest.... Jer ne mogu da nadjem ekipu rekoh ajde da prvi put udjem u neki hordaski glavni grad pa sam uzeo Undercity jer je on slab sa ljudima... U ogrimar planiram ali sa full epic :) I ako u novoj verziji palishe dobiju stelth :D Nije nesto ali meni je bilo lepo kad sam usao i video, 60 lvl nikad krocio u undercity (ovo mi je bio prvi put) nikad napravio hordasa pa da udjem na miru :) Gde ste vi isli prvi put u neku avanturicu da se iziviljavate kad ste se smorili... ?

Meni se iskreno desi ponekad po neki trip ali ne tolki :) Jure me undedovi :D a ja palamudin :D eehehe Elem nas je sve u paketu zajebao QZMA :D procitajte poslednje izdanje SK :D ja mislim da onaj ima veci trip kad izadje u grad.

E bas me interesuje, posto sam sinoc ponosni vlasnik, a i kao prvi epic koji mi ispao u igri [skullflame Shield], sta je vama ispalo i kakav vam je bio izraz na licu :D .... Ja sam se odusevio, otiso kuci da spavam od uzbudjenja (lazem igrao sam celu noc nisam mogo vishe igrati) i onda kad sam ustao da se logujem puska isteko pre paid period :( Ko nezna kako shield izgleda pogledajte ovde: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=11613 Inace dobio sam ga u Silthiusu, ubio sam nekog smrdljivog Undead ELF-a dal je bio druid ili onaj sto me cepa nozevima ne znam ni sam, znam da je bio 57 lvl non elite....