f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Tj, stalno pisete kako zelite ssd za sistemski disk. Nije li to potpuno pogresno? Boli me uvo za kolko se win ucitava, zelim da mi steam/wow/virtualne masine ne oru po diskovima toliko da ocu da se ubijem. Zar nije bolje boot OS sa sporog diska, dosta rama, i SSD za aplikacije? Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Pa na disk od 120 GB može da stane i OS i Wow i Steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 jedan za sistemske aplikacije, jedan za programe/igre. Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 i jedan externi hdd Quote http://www.biss.rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 ili sva tri ssd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobermann Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 aj sto si isfejlovao kao tenk u TBC nego sto i sad fejlujes kao sys engineer :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dule_smor Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 i ddr4 ofc! banujte me na tri dana :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 aj sto si isfejlovao kao tenk u TBC nego sto i sad fejlujes kao sys engineer :) pa u cemu? generalno kolko vidim svi butuju OS sa malih sdd a drze app na sata disku. 2 ssd mi nisu opcija zbog cene. meni je stvarno najlogicnije da os drzim na sporom disku, aplikacije na ssd, a multimediju na ext. Nemam ja neki problem ni sad ali bas nekad zakrlja disk i osecam da gusi Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Defragmentuj ga i dodaj RAM-a :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Pa na disk od 120 GB može da stane i OS i Wow i Steam. pa taman recimo :) meni su wow i steam oko 85 GB. win 7 cepa 20, i taman.defrag je, imam 8 GB. nije to Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Još uradiš powercfg -h off da ubiješ hibernacioni imidž i dobiješ dodatnih 8 GB na disku, infinite space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 imas neku preporuku za ssd od 120/250? ubijen mi je hib imidz do not worry :) Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Kingston v200+Samo gledaj da kad budeš pravio particije, da počinju na sektorima čije su adrese deljive sa 4k. Mada, u Windows 7 setupu samo izaberi ceo prazan SSD i nemoj ništa ručno da praviš, pa će on sve završiti automatski (boot particija od 100 MB i C: koji će početi na adresi deljivoj sa 4k). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 sto to :) znam da je na trad. diskovima za zahtevne stvari (serverske) nakon win2k3 instalacije morao da se pokrece diskpart i da se rucno podesava alajnment, al sto sad ovo? jel ima neke veze Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_ Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Zato što sektor na hardu može da bude proizvoljan pošto su to "analogne" ploče i možeš da im praviš geometriju kako hoćeš, dok je SSD običan NAND fleš sa ćelijama (stranicama) koje su fiksne veličine 4kB. Međutim te ćelije nisu word-adresibilne kao RAM već kontroler može da menja kečeve u nule bez brisanja cele ćelije (brisanje = vraćanje na kečeve), a ako hoćeš makar jednu nulu u ćeliji da vratiš na keca, to se svodi na prebacivanje ćelije u RAM (odnosno bafer), modifikovanje u RAM-u, brisanje ćelije i vraćanje novog sadržaja iz RAM-a. I sad, pošto kontroler u praksi često mora da prepisuje cele 4k ćelije, ako ti loše isparticionišeš disk pa se logički sektori ne poklapaju sa fizičkim, onda se javlja situacija da se jedan logički 4k sektor proteže na dva fizička i onda SSD kontroler mora da obrađuje dva umesto jednog, a to se odražava na performanse i može da se izmeri alatima za benchmarkovanje SSD-ova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4ts0 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 a ok Quote You may have gone to Cambridge, but I'm an honorary graduate of Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerBah Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 240 ili 256 Gb za sistemski disk je trenutno taman (dodushe ja igre drzim na raid 0, zato shto me mrzi da brishem stare igre). Bilo bi dobro da se pojave jeftiniji SSD-ovi od 480 i 512 Gb, onda uopshte ne bih razmishljao o mestu na disku ;) Josh jedna stvar - dobro je gasiti indexing service na SSD diskovima poshto je search ionako veoma brz na njima, a indexing bez veze troshi resurs SSD-a. Quote А в чем сила, брат? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlinepikanje Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 meni je na ssdu instaliran sistem , wow , wot , lol i ostale app i radi sve lepo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 meni je 120 giga i više nego dovoljno za sistem i aplikacije. doduše, nemam preveliki steam folder i ne držim 30 igara instalirano, možda je do toga :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlinepikanje Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 ja imam slobodno 40gb sa intel i5 sve radi kao ludo :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G!!! Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Imate steam betu gde mozete igre instalirati van steam foldera, pa aktuelnu igru/igre mozete staviti i na sistemski ssd :) Ako bude trend kao do sada sledece godine ssd 512 150 evrica, moja odokativna procena :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruko Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 50% godisnje padaju cene sdd-ova. kad god da kupis, zajebes se :) Quote Don't think of understanding as a 'mental process' at all. Rather ask yourself: in what kind of case, under what circumstances do we say "now i can go on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G!!! Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 cisto dranje kupaca :) nije kao da treba nesto da usavrsavaju tehnologiju kako bi se dostigle veci kapaciteti (kao kod hdd-ova sto je bilo, gustina zapisa ovo ono recimo) mozemo da vam prodajemo ssd-ove i od terabajt, al nismo ludi :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwerko Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Elem, samo da se po'falim, uzeo sam tog Kingstona V200+ od 120GB za laptop i fura sve bas lepo i brzo, za 9k dinara najisplativiji apgrejd koji sam radio. Pritom za pare koje sam ustedeo umesto da uzmem skupljeg i brzeg Samsunga sam uzeo eksternu USB 3.0 fioku i u nju ubacio disk od 500GB od laptopa pa i dalje imam sve podatke lepo tu. Takodje sam bio mrzovoljni mrmot pa sam samo klonirao stari na novi disk sa Paragon Migrate OS to SSD programom (koji valjda radi i taj alignment) i cak i sa starom instalacijom wina sve radi superbrzo. pritom imam jos oko 40GB slobodnog prostora na disku, sto mi je sasvim ok, realno dovoljno da imam instalirane sve aplikacije koje mi realno trebaju (nema igrica) i da imam mesta za tekuce podatke. Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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